“It was my honor, your pleasure…”

October 19, 2009 · 1,002 Comments

For those of you waiting for an important breaking story, I showed that in the video of Joy Wray with her statements about searching the exact location and not finding Caylee where her remains were later found. Because I wanted you to see and hear it, I got the video up as soon as I could. For sure, the interview showed why WESH television journalist and reporter Bob Kealing is the best in central Florida.

There are no revelations in this post. It is just about my experience and observations in the courtroom. There are reasons why I did not put this post up right away, too. Other than for my own personal reasons, I am not really one to grandstand. Most people know by now that Judge Stan Strickland called me up to talk after the hearing ended. Yes, I was the guy in the second row he asked for. What the judge and I discussed was not “breaking news” and, therefore, not something that needed to be released immediately after the event. Sorry, but it was never my intent to rush home and turn my blog into an outlet to publicize myself. I was not seeking my fifteen minutes of fame as some have suggested. I needed to wait until things settled down. What transpired at the end of the hearing was something I will remember for the rest of my life. I am not one to sensationalize. I do not love to blow my own horn. Not too loudly, anyway.

No doubt, I try to be independent, but I will always have a soft spot for the whims of a good woman. It’s definitely one of my traits, as anyone who knows me will probably agree. Stubborn, yes, but a softie at heart. At the same time, it’s very important to point out that there are a lot of good – dare I say great – women who frequent this blog and I am often thrust into acquiescing to some of their strongest wishes or suffer in the ensuing quagmire of “reader’s block” and harsh words if I don’t. Fortunately, we all know how to bend and it’s, more or less, just a way to vent and express how passionate we all are about the Anthony case.

When I mentioned I was going to do my best to go to the latest hearing, I was asked specifically that I not sit on the side of the defense. A lot of folks just don’t like any of the Anthonys. What difference does it make which side of the court I sit on, I wondered? I mean, this wasn’t going to be like a wedding where you tell the usher whether you’re a friend of the bride or groom. Oh, it makes all the difference in the world, I was corrected. Well, I continued, what if I have an opportunity to speak to George or Cindy or anyone else, like Brad Conway? If I am to consider myself a journalist of any kind, shouldn’t I be allowed to write about both sides of a story? I realize we all have bias here, but isn’t it a fact that I have been more than fair and protective of all sides, defense and prosecution? How can I get both sides of a story if I only listen to one? One of the reasons why people come to this blog is because, deep down inside, they are more than fair, too. It’s just tough sometimes, given the evidence we’ve pored over and the fact that emotions do run deep.

As I drove toward downtown Orlando on Friday morning, I wondered what sort of day I would have. Would I even be able to get into the courtroom?

When I got to the courthouse, I went through security and walked straight ahead to the information desk. I wanted to make sure the hearing wasn’t moved from 19-B. Good thing I did, because the nice man behind the desk said it was moved to 10-A. As I entered the courtroom, I glanced left and right. The right side was booked solid. I had to make a decision and I wanted to sit down before the judge walked in. The only seat left was right next to Holly Bristow – someone out to get a story. Obviously, the story was more important to her than where she sat, and later, I heard no complaining about her.

While waiting the long five or so minutes, the courtroom remained silent. There was no friendly banter. I think, like a church, there’s a certain reverence, but instead of God, it’s for the law, courtrooms and judges. It did not stop me from looking around. On the right side, I spotted Bob Kealing in the front row and Kathi Belich a few rows behind him. I sat in the second row on the left, in an aisle seat. Right away, I saw Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon, but where was Casey? Had they not brought her in yet? And where were George and Cindy? I peered around the left side of the person directly in front of me and there was Casey, flanked by her two attorneys. Her neatly combed hair flowed about six inches below her shoulder. Throughout the proceeding, I noticed she would often take her left hand to brush her hair back. Meanwhile, I began to wonder why George and Cindy weren’t there.

ALL RISE

Suddenly, a small entourage of people, including Judge Strickland, entered through a door at the front of the courtroom, to my right. He walked along the wall, between a four foot high partition, and took his seat behind the bench. When Casey stood, I noticed she was wearing a green top with a wide black belt. It appeared the belt came with the blouse. As much as I wanted to look at all of these people as celebrities, I couldn’t help but think they were in this courtroom because of one person. As the proceeding began, I still wondered why George and Cindy weren’t there. I did my best to look all around without it being so awkwardly apparent. Finally, there they were, two seats directly to my left. Sandwiched between Holly and the Anthonys was Jim Lichtenstein, a producer for the NBC Today Show. I chatted with him later. Jim was visible in the Bob Kealing video interview with Joy Wray, standing on the left side of the camera view. He had a very friendly demeanor.

Just as the proceeding began, George and Cindy’s attorney, Brad Conway, entered the courtroom and parked his wheelchair directly to my right. Early into it, Judge Strickland questioned whose courtroom it was because there was hand lotion all over the place. That brought laughter from the crowd, including Casey. Whatever you think about her, it was a comical moment and it seemed to me that it was a simple way for the judge to help the entire courtroom to relax a bit. Judge Strickland apologized and the proceeding continued. Of course, we all know the outcome by now. Casey lost the battle to get her murder case thrown out.

“It’s a farce. It doesn’t even come close to the legal requirements necessary for the court to even entertain a motion to dismiss,” state prosecutor Linda Drane-Burdick argued Friday. “The entire motion, from top to bottom, it is replete with errors, it’s insufficient as a matter of law.”

“It cannot be the intent of the Florida legislature that a person swear to something that they do not have personal knowledge of,” Lyon argued.

“The content of the motion, as well as Ms. Anthony’s brief affirmations, are not enough to carry the day under Florida Rules of Pleading,” Judge Strickland wrote in his order. He ruled (read his order) that Casey had not sworn to the proper and legally required facts to even ask for him to consider dropping the murder and child abuse charges against her. (read motionstate’s response to strike) There is nothing that stops the defense from refiling the motion.

One thing I observed was Andrea Lyon’s very strong voice while arguing against the state’s c4 motion, which was the response to the defense motion to dismiss counts 1 and 2 of the indictment against their client.

Another aspect of the hearing concerned the time the defense argued against turning over evidence yet that showed someone else having dumped Caylee’s body in the woods last year. The judge said he realized that discovery was a rolling process as new witnesses are added, but if Todd Macaluso hadn’t opened a can of worms to begin with, there would be no issue. Because he did, the state should be allowed to see it. You said you have proof. Put up or shut up. The judge gave a deadline of February 1 to turn the evidence over to the state by granting the motion to compel witness list and reciprocal discovery.

As I watched and listened to what was transpiring before me, I tried to glance to my left at Holly without looking like a peeping Tom. I was trying to see how she was making notations. I had brought along my little pocket notebook and I seemed to be writing down information at the same time the real journalists were. She had a legal size pad and what appeared to be a Palm Pilot, where she diligently and quickly entered text. Pretty nifty, I thought. At some point, the judge brought up the Richardson Hearing, of which I had absolutely no knowledge. I still don’t, but it has something to do with defense depositions.

Part of the hearing dealt with those persnickety autopsy photos the defense has yet to see. The judge and prosecutors were mostly concerned with sending them out of state to be viewed by the defense team’s forensic specialists. How could the defense be certain that someone in another state, where Florida laws and court orders don’t apply, wouldn’t release any images to the public. If the photos leave the jurisdiction of the state, the judge said, no court would have jurisdiction over them. He also wondered how anyone could guarantee the images wouldn’t be lost or stolen in transit. It was during this part of the hearing that an idea popped in my head. I wrote it down on my pad and tapped Brad Conway on his arm to show him.

UPLOAD TO SECURE FTP SITE

We briefly exchanged a few very quiet words. What the defense said was that the photographs on the server were unmanageable to print because their experts were “technically challenged.” In other words, too old to learn new computer tricks. They didn’t know, for instance, how to place 2 images side by side for comparison. Don’t laugh, I know a lot of people like that. They may know everything about plant decomposition, but nothing about how to operate sophisticated imaging software. In the end, the state was granted discretion over how and when they would be sent.

Casey will go back to court in December. A pre-trial hearing is scheduled in her check fraud case for December 18. The judge set the trial date in that case to begin on January 25. Her defense team has asked that the trial be moved out of Orange County, but the court has yet to rule on that.

I must be honest with you. As much as you may despise these people, George and Cindy Anthony are a very attractive couple in real life. When the hearing ended, Casey turned around and I saw her face to face as she walked in my direction. No matter how ugly you feel she is inside, she is still a pretty girl. She was short, no doubt, and and not as chunky as her latest jail photos show. She’s still quite petite. I wanted to get an up close and personal look at her and I did. Did she look like a cold-hearted baby killer? I can’t say. Is there a certain look? Did I miss something? All I can tell you is that she was there, and without these charges, she would still be Casey. It didn’t appear that over a year in jail has hardened or aged her.

I turned to Brad Conway again to mention a newspaper article I had read recently. It was Florida Today and it chronicled his past and what compelled him to become an attorney. It was complimentary and well written. I also told him I had something to give him from a private source, something that was sent to me. We discussed it and I had to tell him that I, unfortunately, left it in the car by mistake. He gave me his card and asked me to mail it, which I will do today. I excused myself and turned to George, who was now directly to the left of me. I offered my condolences for his and Cindy’s loss and we exchanged a few pleasantries. I don’t know exactly when and how it happened, but a court bailiff stopped me from leaving. I thought it was protocol, like I was leaving out of turn, similar to a wedding. After it’s over, you leave row by row. She told me to stop and wait. I did. This is the account of my experience. It may not be verbatim, but it is real and true.

“The judge wants to see you.”

“I don’t think so.”

“Hold on. Yes, I’m sure the judge wants to see YOU.”

“Uh, uh, no… I don’t think so. I think you got the wrong guy. Are you sure it’s me and not someone else? I mean, why would the judge want to see me? I don’t think I did anything wrong.” I was completely perplexed and I began to get a little nervous.

“Hang on, I’ll check.” She never left my side and I was almost oblivious to what was going on around me. I must add that at no time did I want to dart from the courtroom, making a hasty escape. But the thought did cross my mind.

Another bailiff came over to her and said yes, HIM. I kept looking at the bailiff and the judge, who was now gesturing for me to step forward. The bailiff opened the gate and I tiptoed my way over to him. He had moved away from the bench, but was still behind that retaining wall, about 4 feet tall.

“Here? Or over at the side?” I asked. I followed him as he moved to my right, nearing the exit door at the front of the courtroom, where he had entered earlier.

We stood looking at each other, with only a mere two feet separating us. Neither one of us had a problem making eye contact. The first thing I noticed was a real sincerity in his eyes.

“Are you Dave?”

“Yes sir, I am.”

“Marinade?”

“Yes sir, that’s me.” I thought that, perhaps, he had tried my marinade years ago and remembered me from one of the many food demos I had done. It turns out, that wasn’t it at all.

Now, some of you may choose not to believe me and you can think whatever you want, but I have absolutely no reason to lie or embellish my story. It’s not going to change my life or yours, but I would appreciate it if you don’t make up stupid stories. I also would be risking my credibility if the judge decided to publicly denounce this in the future. I value my honesty way too much and that was one of the things he addressed.

He told me he was not a computer person, nor was he very good on the Internet. I told him he didn’t need to be. After all, it was not a computer that qualified him to sit on the bench.

“Needless to say, I do go on the Internet and read about this case.” I see no reason whatsoever for him to remain blind to what the outside world, meaning outside of the court system, has to say. Should he cancel his subscription to the Orlando Sentinel and remove all TVs from his house? Would you expect him to sequester himself from the outside world? “I must say that you have the best Web site regarding this case. You investigate and you are very fair to everyone.”

“I thought you were going to ask me to never come back because the glare off my head kept you from concentrating.”

“No, I just wanted to tell you that.”

“I thought, maybe, you had used my marinade years ago.”

“No, you are very good as a writer and you stick to facts. You are very fair and I’m impressed.” WOW! That was impressive. I impressed HIM.

I thanked him to no end. I was in awe of the man. I, we, have watched him in action. His demeanor. His fairness. His elegance on the bench. Let me tell you all something, Judge Strickland is a very humble man. To think that I impressed him was the best compliment I could ever get about my blog. He did not look down upon me. He treated me as a person and that’s the way he looks at Casey and everyone else related to this case; something we have ALL seen in him – his fairness on the bench. I think he looks at blogs and forums the same way. He looks for fairness. After all, he must listen to both sides or he wouldn’t be a good judge at all, would he?

I told him about a friend of mine who was also a judge, but one who heard workman’s compensation cases. When I mentioned his name, he said he knew him. With that, I thanked him again and turned to leave. At that point, I was floating on air and I was bouncing off the walls. I told my story to several people standing outside. That was when I met Michelle. She said, “Wow, I’ve finally met a real celebrity.”

That brought me back down to earth again. I am no celebrity and I told her so. It was a real honor, but I am just a regular old guy. Nothing else.

I left the courtroom and went back to that information desk. I told that same nice man I first spoke with about my great adventure. I was still floating and I must admit, I did a little gloating. I asked him where Casey came out. He said in the basement. They have holding cells and prisoners leave from that location. Can reporters go down there? No, no one is allowed access and she’s already on her way back to the jail. I thanked him and walked toward the front. When I walked out the door, reporters and cameras were waiting. I walked right up to Bob Kealing and told him what had just transpired. He said they all saw me getting called up to the bench. I was not expecting to be interviewed by anyone. Instead, I asked him what they were waiting for. He said the defense team. They’ll walk out this door. I said I didn’t want to miss it. Did I have time to go to the parking garage and retrieve my video camera? He said yes, he was sure.

As I walked to the garage, I was stopped by a woman. “Are you Dave? Marinade Dave?”

“Yes, I am!” I said, proudly. Here I was almost living in the moment of my celebrity world that did not ever exist.

“I’m Joy Wray.” I knew immediately who she was. I told her I was going back to my car to get the camera. We walked together and chatted. We also walked back to the courthouse and a few moments later, Baez & Company walked out. The rest is captured on my video.

After it was all said and done and the morning was winding down, I walked with Bob Kealing to the television trucks, the ones with the towering antennae.

He said, “You’re the one that got James Thompson to open up. I read that. That was really good work. As a matter of fact, we all read your site. You are always fair and honest.”

Yup, that was me, or at least, that’s what I had always hoped people would look at me as. I still do and it’s reassuring to know media people follow blogs. We should all know that, too. He asked me for my card. I told him I ordered some last week, but they weren’t in yet. Instead, he offered one of his. Drats, my cards came in the mail this morning. If only I had ordered them earlier. Anyway, it’s time to get back to work. In the end, I’m still the same old Dave and I noticed I still put my pants on the same way as every other morning. The only thing that’s different? There are a lot more people out there who hate me now. Just remember, like Judge Strickland, I read what others are saying, only I am VERY Internet savvy.

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1,002 responses so far ↓

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 8:55 am

    Morning Tengard!

  • jilligan45 // October 21, 2009 at 8:59 am

    lilyolily…. I switched to my alter ego this morning, she’s in amuch better mood….lol Tengard

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 9:01 am

    I like your attitude, Rita from Luxembourg. Your mind is quite open and you view things with a clear vision. That’s good. Have a great day.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 9:02 am

    Good morning, jilligan45.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 9:16 am

    jilligan45 it is then. I switched from owenmeany to my wordpress account name lilyolily a couple of days ago so we’re dealing with identity crisis at the same time.

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 9:20 am

    OH Jilligan WHY are you doing this to me? I will take forever to read this poor owensmeany/lilyowen/lily is still a long name! Good morning by the way, glad you are back. lol

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 9:20 am

    Dave – don’t know how many – but you’ve got a BUNCH of comments on this article. Even with my very high speed access it takes a long time to reload.

    Not complaining about your popularity Sir but maybe you could give us a fresh Page 2 or ‘continued’ just for comments?

    Or maybe this is a blatant attempt at getting you to release a new article (LOL)

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 9:21 am

    And off to SPAM I go . . .

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 9:22 am

    not read REMEMBER your new name. I am on the phone and can’t concentrate… lol I can’t do two things at once!

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 9:23 am

    Laura – I did it just to mess with you because I know you don’t already have enough on your plate to deal with!

  • jilligan45 // October 21, 2009 at 9:27 am

    I am soooo tired again this morning, I thought the fresh sea air would help the cause of my walking pneumonia, I think it made the crud worse! My immune system is so down to begin with, Sometimes I think I pretend I’m wonderwoman….lol

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 9:28 am

    LOL lily! I am still doing two things at once and it is hard to listen and have other thoughts in my head. Lord help me. How are you today?

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 9:29 am

    Jilligan your not wonderwomen? Damn I thought you was. lol

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 9:30 am

    oh my god woman!!! this is not working for me…

  • jilligan45 // October 21, 2009 at 9:31 am

    Good morning Miss Laura!

  • jilligan45 // October 21, 2009 at 9:33 am

    Yes, yes yes… my children like to think that too….. mom’s are never supposed to be down, cruddy and cranky :)

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 9:33 am

    I’m good – getting to work from home yesterday and today (hopefully the rest of the week too)! That’s why I’m like a gnat buzzing around all day.

    My comment that went to SPAM was begging Dave to start a page 2 so that the comments won’t be so hard to reload since it looks like there are well over 650 by now.

    How are you doing? Doing good work like you do has to be rewarding.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 9:37 am

    hahaha Jilligan – mom’s have every reason to be down cruddy and cranky. If not us – then who? Mine starts with my 16-y-0 son picking one bite out of the cheese omelet and toast I made for him at 5:30. Feeling so under appreciated! I was a hero with my lab and yorkie with the leftovers tho. They always treat me right.

  • jilligan45 // October 21, 2009 at 9:42 am

    Very interesting comments duringn the extreme wee hours of the morning, it amazes me how so many people grow a set of peanuts when they think no one is watching. But believe me, I’m used to it… I guess one of my super human powers is to block it out…well, for the exception of yesterday…lol, Dave I was just outon your marinating site and OMG I can’t wait to muster up the energy and go home and cook!

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 9:43 am

    I love my job. I wish I could retire though, I enjoy talking to you all more! My girls think I am nuts. Oh to be thought of as wonder woman.

  • jilligan45 // October 21, 2009 at 9:44 am

    Good lord, Someone please bring me a double espresso so I can’t wake up and spell!

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 9:50 am

    Jilligan you should zip to starbucks! I did. No one should sit and judge you for your friends. You only met them a year ago, you wasn’t around when raising their daughter. They should sale the peanuts they grow.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 9:54 am

    peanuts mmmmm now i want peanut butter toast.

    and a latte from starbucks

    thanks a lot

    One thing interesting – haven’t heard anything about or from Mr. Thompson lately or have I missed something?

  • jilligan45 // October 21, 2009 at 10:02 am

    Laura, your right. Starbucks it is! Honestly I really don’t care what people think, I’ve actullay known them longer than that, we have just become closer over the past year and few months, I know in my heart I know the real them. Aside from things that have been said or done on their behalf I may not have always agreed with, but who am I? …..just a very good friend. Anyway, judge away! I’m one of the coolest cat’s you’ll ever meet, just ask my 14 year old’s friends ….lol besides, the only reason I’m really out here is to get those really yummy marinating tips!

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 10:02 am

    No he was exposed as idiot. My words, I don’t like the way he degrades women!

  • jilligan45 // October 21, 2009 at 10:04 am

    lilyolily, I’ll be right back with the Latte!

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 10:09 am

    Jilligan I thought you was here for my company! lol It is not our place to pick and choose your friends, that is not the kind of friend I am. Can’t speak for everyone. I love peanut butter toast, apples and peanut butter and peanut butter on a spoon! Dave is talking on phone he is not ignoring us.

  • jilligan45 // October 21, 2009 at 10:14 am

    Laura, can I pick u up a latte as well? I’m thinking a couple of redbull’s may do the trick…lol

    I’m here for ya gyrl anytime!!! That’s it…. Grande Latte’s for all!!! witha splat of peanut butter on the side… ewe……..

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 10:17 am

    Sounds good! I am here for you too! I am glad lily was around yesterday to help you, not that you need our help but it is always nice to have someone to back you up.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 10:18 am

    ok made my own peanut butter toast and coffee. guess i better get some work that i get paid to do done. dang jobs! i will be back soon. can’t stay away for long. Give Dave hell about being so popular his comment page is bogged down.

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 10:25 am

    Good morning all. No, didn’t just get up-the early morning is for job hunting

    Rita-You have nothing to apologize for. Your English writing is great!

    Tengard/Jilligan-Hope you feel better soon.

    Lily-Maybe I should get an alter ego. Me and the one who does not have thick skin-I got mad yesterday when someone made fun of Dave and us on Blink yesterday!

    Dave, if you are going to read the depos we won’t see you for days!! I am not kidding. I’m still reading Cindy’s, and it’s been, I think, since Sat or Sun.
    Is your Dad feeling better?

    One more thing: Go Yankees!

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 10:26 am

    oops..Hi Laura.

  • martha // October 21, 2009 at 10:54 am

    my husband will be having surgery this Friday to have a tumor removed at the base of his brain. prayers are appreciated. also it will be our 32nd anniversary.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 10:58 am

    Oh Martha. I just caught your comment about your husband. You will both be in my thoughts during this event on your 32nd year married. I know you must be frightened and many other things I can only imagine.

    Thank you for letting us know.

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 11:17 am

    Good morning Sherry and Linda. Martha, I will pray for your husband and you! I will also be thinking about you so please keep us posted.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 11:24 am

    I’m a fast reader. Linda From New York.

    Go Yankees!

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 11:25 am

    I will keep you and your husband in my thoughts and prayers, martha. I wish him the best.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Sherry – I didn’t have a problem with Gina’s opinions. It just seemed to me that she wrote comment after comment after comment doing nothing but putting people down. If you agree with her, how come you don’t write lengthy and obsessive comments like that?

    I wrote about what I observed about Casey in the courtroom. I said she doesn’t look as bad or as fat in person, at least on that day. How can anyone disagree with me if they weren’t there? Had Gina been in the courtroom, I wouldn’t have mentioned it to her. I’m not downing her at all, I just don’t agree with her and I am allowed to voice an opinion, too.

  • Renee // October 21, 2009 at 11:42 am

    GM. The following is copied and a opinion, I guess. Why, why did the Anthony family have to take these unreal turns and twist right from the beginning? Why, why could they not see that lies and mistruths would come to the surface sooner or later? This is exactly why I feel so sorry for them…….the inconsistencies are many and almost like something from a made up novel. I have deleted a few bad words before posting.
    ______________

    One thing is clear: Casey took a photo or photos from the house after she was released from jail, and that is “ZIP IT” material to the defense.

    GOOD LORD.

    *****
    I know the depositions were the topic of the last story, but I have been busy/just skimming them now.

    As Judge Strickland might point out:
    **The TRUTH and the ANTHONY FAMILY are STRANGERS**

    *****

    I had to go back and look at Cindy’s FBI interview. (I need to go back and look at George’s as well).

    Here are a few gems in the meantime:

    “The other thing is, why would you run out of gas and not just have someone just buy you a gallon of gas or two of gas until you can get to a gas station and fill up. It doesn’t make sense. So, I’m not sure why she would abandon the car. Especially if the car HAD ALL THIS EVIDENCE THAT’S GONNA LINK HER TO CAYLEE’S DEATH IN IT.” pp.56-57

    HUH,CINDY?? I thought you believed Caylee wasn’t DEAD at the time you spoke to the FBI. I thought you believed there was only a rotting PIZZA in the trunk of the Pontiac. I thought you didn’t think there was ANY EVIDENCE of Caylee’s DEATH last summer. I thought you wanted people to keep looking for her. (Like you want people to believe she is not dead NOW, because you, personally, refuse to look at the hard evidence showing that your grandchild’s remains–and no one else’s–were recovered around the corner from your house, where you and your children rode bicycles when they were growing up).

    Clearly, Cindy, you already knew that Caylee was DEAD, and already knew/understood that there was EVIDENCE OF CAYLEE’S DEATH IN THE PONTIAC, LINKING CAYLEE’S DEATH to Casey.

    That, dear friends, is AN UNINTENDED ADMISSION. And a HUGE one, at that. (I have said all along that CA and GA KNEW that Caylee was dead as soon as they got near that car). (I almost PUKED when I saw that she testified at the deposition that she went into the house and ATE LUNCH before going back to work on July 15, 2008, after just having been in the garage for several minutes with that Pontiac stinking up the entire space with Caylee’s DECOMP. Are you kidding me?? That is… just… BEYOND disgusting)

    *****
    Here is yet another winner:

    “When we got on site [at Johnson's] THE GUY SAYS, ‘Listen, BEFORE YOU COME TO THE CAR’…my… they WARNED MY HUSBAND, ‘IT STINKS. AND IT’S BEEN PROGRESSIVELY SMELLING WORSE.’ HE SAID, ‘YOU KNOW, IT’S BEEN PROGRESSIVELY SMELLING WORSE SINCE IT’S BEEN HERE. UM, HE SAID IT DIDN’T SMELL GREAT WHEN THEY PICKED IT UP.’”

    Got that?????? They WARNED GEORGE–BEFORE they even took him to the car on the lot– that it has SMELLED SINCE IT HAD BEEN THERE AT JOHNSON’S– AND TOLD HIM IT SMELLED AT AMSCOT–WHEN THEY PICKED IT UP. (does that jive with what Cindy Anthony tells the media, the State?? Hell to the NO.) (And if it was stinking on that lot, OUTSIDE… How the F did she go into the house and EAT LUNCH. Yahhh.. She didn’t. If she did anything, she PUKED. There is no way in Hades that this woman ATE LUNCH after smelling that vehicle. Either that was just another big, fat LIE… or she is a total MONSTER.)

    *****

    At one point, she almost COULD NOT SHUT UP about wanting to inflict PHYSICAL HARM on CASEY… ABOUT (wanting to) SHAKE HER PHYSICALLY.. about how she was afraid that if she started to shake her, she might not stop… and on and on about it (see pp. 65-66 for some pretty bizarre comments out of Cindy’s own mouth) (Ummmm.. if she believed Casey was a “victim”, how come she wanted to MURDER her? Yahhh.)

    *****
    DARK, DARK SECRETS in that house. Lie-telling is nothing new there. Major sickness abounds. I mean, Lee… with all that totally inappropriate laughter– STILL.
    *****

    This family has been in LIE-TELLING MODE since the VERY FIRST NIGHT. I believe the lies began BEFORE Cindy called 9-1-1 the last time. I think they sat there and tried to figure out a way to get out of this mess, and they had to come up with the Jay Blanchard park story when the Sawgrass story didn’t work out so well.

    ****
    One of my favorite portions of the transcript is when the FBI Agent interrupts Cindy’s utter nonsense and says:

    “I’LL TELL YOU SOMETHING RIGHT UP FRONT, CINDY. SHE…SHE’S STILL NOT… SHE… IF SHE HAD TIME TO GO TO WORK, IF SHE HAD TIME TO SEE FRIENDS…

    [Cindy interrupts "But I don't think she was working during this time"-- LOF-INGL]…

    He continues:
    “I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WERE TALKING ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF, TWO WEEKS PERIOD OF TIME, WHERE HER TIME WAS COMPLETELY OCCUPIED…..
    IS THAT WHAT WE’RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE??”

    [Cindy interrupts with nonsense]

    FBI agent continues: BUT NOW SHE’S TELLING YOU FROM.. FROM WHERE SHE’S….THE CONVERSATION SHE HAS NOW, ‘THINK BACK MOM WHAT I WAS TELLING YOU, I WAS TRYING TO GIVE YOU CLUES’….

    [Cindy interrupts]…

    “DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE NOW THAT SHE WAS ACTUALLY IN A POSITION WHERE SHE HAD NO CONTACT WITH ANYONE EXCEPT BY PHONE? THEY WOULD NOT LET HER TALK ON THE PHONE AS MUCH AS SHE WANTED?”

    [Cindy pretends that this is not an EXCELLENT point: "I don't know. I could not elaborate." Ha. All she does is ELABORATE and LIE-TELL when it suits her aim.]

    *****

    POLYGRAPH- FBI agent asks Cindy if she is willing to take a poly about all she told him during this interview–and she says, “Absolutely.” p.227

    Well…. apparently she LIED about that as well.

    And she launches right into — IT COULD HAVE BEEN AN ACCIDENT BY THE POOL/INVOLVING THE USE OF THE POOL.

    Hmmmm…If Caylee was still ALIVE… why would she need to SUGGEST that some sort of “ACCIDENT” caused Caylee’s UNTIMELY DEATH? pp.227-228

    *****
    So…
    Let me get this defense diagram straight.

    A) Caylee is NOT DEAD. They cremated someone else’s baby’s remains. And that’s, ya know… NORMAL. (cue Lee’s inappropriate laughter here).
    B) Caylee is NOT DEAD, BUT… IF she IS, then some STRANGER did it.
    C) Forget B. Caylee is NOT DEAD, BUT… IF she IS, then some KNOWN person (Amy, Jesse, Tony, Ricardo, blahblahblah) did it.
    D) Wait. Forget B and C. Caylee is NOT DEAD, BUT… IF she IS, and it can be definitely linked to the last person to be with her while she was alive (ahem, Casey– OR Casey and George), then.. it was an ACCIDENT involving the pool and the ladder somehow.
    E) We take back D,–and the other stuff– because it was a STRANGER who stole Caylee through the back yard.
    F) We might take back D and E, because it was actually some KNOWN PERSON (Amy, Jesse, Tony, Ricardo, blahblahblah) who stole Caylee through the back yard.
    G) We take back all of the above, except for A, because Caylee is alive and living in California.. or New York… or Puerto Rico… or Georgia… or Miami.. or North Carolina.. or Texas…
    H) We’re still investigating, and we’ll let you know

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 11:50 am

    I really thought that was an interesting comment from silverspnr at Blink when I saw it this morning too. One of the best commenters at Blink IMO

  • Renee // October 21, 2009 at 11:53 am

    lilyolily, I so agree. I could not help but post it all over the net (geez, Renee). Silverspur has great analytical skills. Many of his/her comments make A LOT of sense.

  • Jan // October 21, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    Silver is definitely one smart cookie.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    Thanks for that comment from Blinks. I am trying to get rid of a bad headache.

  • Renee // October 21, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Dave, yw…hope your headache goes away momentarily.

  • Sherry // October 21, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    martha, you have my prayers! And, happy Anniversary!

  • martha // October 21, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    thank you all for your thoughts and prayers. i will let you know how the surgery goes. my husband says he is not afraid of dying as he knows he would be in God’s arms but just afraid of being totally paryalysed. He was in a very bad accident many years ago and was paralysed and had to learn to walk again, etc. He doesnt want to be dependent on anyone for care. But I know that Jesus wants to do good things for people and healing is one of them so I know that he will be doing great after Friday and on the road to recovery. Going on to the house, spending today and tomorrow at home–no “puter”. Will miss everyone here.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    You’ll be missed here Martha. Enjoy some quiet time with hubby! Happy anniversary to you two kids. Go act like newlyweds. I’ll definitely think of you on Friday. My best wishes for a full speedy recovery.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    dang SPAM – martha I sent you some well wishes but the will probably show up after you’re long gone

  • Beatrice // October 21, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Rita from Luxembourg, I found in your comments this morning, kindness and pleasing to read.

  • snoopysleuth // October 21, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Hello Marinade et al… I am going to try and finish reading the rest of the deps today so will be keeping a low profile…

  • Renee // October 21, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    new discovery made available to the defense by Linda Burdick:

    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21361234/detail.html

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Judge Strickland said: the truth and MS. ANTHONY are stranger. NOT the Anthony family.

  • Anna // October 21, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    The cropped picture was cropped from the larger picture that was on the Oct. 10, 2008 cover of Globe magazine. The significance of the picture is that it was a picture of Caylee in a t-shirt that had the lettering “Big Trouble Comes in Small Packages”.

    A tattered pink t-shirt collar and the letters off of that t-shirt were found at the Suburban Rd site. The t-shirt had otherwise been destroyed by the elements. LE had found a shirt like that one and purchased it as an example of what the destroyed shirt might have looked like. I think that LE wanted to have on record from Cindy that the lettered t-shirt did come from the Anthony home, which she would not acknowledge before the picture was put in front of her. Her statement had been that Caylee did not own any lettered t-shirts.

    LE have investigated where the Globe got this picture which shows Caylee in a similar type of t-shirt being held by Caylee. The person that sold that picture to the Globe has probably been identified and LE knows who it is, but has not told us yet. Blink claims that that cropped picture was found at the crime scene site. This is the part has been certainly questionable to a lot of people. I would not think that the picture would have survived any better than the t-shirt did.

    We may not no of the significance of this, if there is any, until the trial.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Meter Reader To Be Deposed In Casey Case
    Posted: 12:04 pm EDT October 21, 2009
    Updated: 12:43 pm EDT October 21, 2009

    ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — Casey Anthony’s defense team scheduled its deposition of meter reader Roy Kronk (read document). He is the man who found Caylee Anthony’s remains on December 11.
    Kronk will be deposed on November 19.

  • Beatrice // October 21, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Anna, the claim that this picture was found at the crime
    scene site is very interesting. Does anyone state what
    condition it was found in? You are right, likely not in good shape at all, if placed at the same time as Caylee’s body. Could it have been put there by someone after body was recovered? Whoever took the picture could have copies anywhere. Does anyone know if the original picture could have been reprinted in some local photo shop.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Casey Anthony’s defense team scheduled its deposition of meter reader Roy Kronk. He is the man who found Caylee Anthony’s remains on December 11.
    Kronk will be deposed on November 19.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    I have not seen at Blink that the pic was found at the crime scene? I’ll go look again tho

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Nope that statement that Blink said a photo was found at the crime scene is just false! In fact it was a total misreading by one commenter – and another commenter was patient enough to explain it to her further down. The commenter who first misread Blink’s article came across rude IMO and always uses all caps which is annoying to no end. Blink chose not to fix her error because she obviously didn’t read the facts very closely.

  • Beatrice // October 21, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Sorry, I thought I read such in your last paragraph.

  • Morgan // October 21, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Dave, I have just discovered your site and wanted to say thank you for providing a place for mature people to discuss this case.

    I live in the Orlando area, gasped when this story 1st broke, cried for the family, did searches for Caylee, and like everyone else, just want Justice for her.

    I have read the topix’s, comments from news outlets, etc, but get tired of the hate that spews from some posters. I certainly don’t understand the Anthony’s actions, but I have not walked in thier shoes, so I try not to judge.

    I enjoyed your article and I also like the idea that Judge Strickland reads the blogs. One must be informed to make an informed decision. I believe an impartial jury can be found in the Orlando area. I have spoken with many that have so much going on in thier lives, they cannot take the time to process each piece of evidence that comes out. My roommate is prime example, as she will ask me monthly, “So hows the case going?”

    If it is ok, I will come back. I tend to lurk and read more than I comment.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    I didn’t comment on that Beatrice. I think Anna did above. I thought there was something new that I had missed so I went to go check out Anna’s comment and that is what I found.

  • Beatrice // October 21, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Anna’s! lp Best I not comment at all!

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    I hope its not because of me? I just wanted to make sure that didn’t become an assumption in the case (a pic being found with Caylee’s remains).

    If I came across rude – please I didn’t mean to. Things like this become ‘fact’ or assumptions real easily in this case.

    I think I’ll just stick to commenting about Dave’s articles – nothing else while here. This becomes a no-win situation and its not my place to correct inaccuracies. I don’t know how people who have these blogs keep their sanity!

  • Anna // October 21, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Here is Blink’s article with the claim that the picture was found at the crime scene.

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/10/20/caseycaylee-anthony-case-caylee-pic-in-the-big-trouble-t-sold-to-the-globe-before-remains-found/

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Morgan? It is perfectly alright if you come back. As a matter of fact, I encourage it. Lurk all you want and comment when you feel the urge. Thank you for enjoying my articles and the ensuing comments. Please make yourself at home.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Trust me, lilyolily, it’s exasperating at times.

    I need to go out for a few hours. Anything stuck in spam will be there for awhile.

  • Beatrice // October 21, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    Not rude at all Lilolily, It was my error in not checking
    back. I read, but do not comment often. Something new peaks my interest, but often I am out of context that is why I tell myself to stop. Thank you for that correction. if you had not stepped in I could have had too many thoughts about it.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Anna – I will grant you that it is unfortunately a not real well-constructed sentence. And one other commenter misunderstood it like you did. But if you’ll read down to HK’s response to the other commenter that misunderstood the sentence (IVOIRE) you will understand. I’ve read that article many times – and I can see how some might have misunderstood the sentence.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Snoopy where are you? I should go find you at your blog.

  • Annie // October 21, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Dave, jimminy crickets, today I woke at 5 am est. decided to read all of your blog — instead of finishing the depos. My gush you really are fair and just. Hope you see this.

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Annie ~~Dave will read it in the mean time welcome! He has a lot of older post to you can find them up on the side bar. None of us are perfect but we for the most part get along. I hope to read some of your comments in the future!!

  • Annie // October 21, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Laura — That’s exactly what I did. I have read the sidebars, the rules, moaning and complaing. Then I started on Snoop’s blog – gosh, so many people with so many deep thoughts!! All, I want for X-Mas is peace, Justice for Caylee and some sort of portable gadgit to read the internet on the go.

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Annie LOL! I suggest a blackberry or some sort of cell phone with internet access. I love being able to keep up where ever I am at.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dzVr4_K4Ao&feature=player_embedded#

    Dom Casey and his assumed contract with Baez

  • Anna // October 21, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    Lilyolily, I am not understanding your post. I posted just above you post, a link to Blink’s statement about the Globe photo. If you follow the link that I posted, Blink’s first paragraph is very clear. I have not read the comments below, but after your comment, I went back up to my link and looked and am not finding what you are referencing about all caps, etc.

    The only reason that I posted this at all was because there were some comments about the cropped photo being of Caylee lying down, etc, and I had information to clear up that it was from the larger picture.

    I closed my statement stating that the Globe picture will be a mystery until the SA decides to release that information. And, I did not appreciate the comment about me keeping my comments to myself.

  • owenmeany // October 21, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Awwwww looks like little Somer Thompson’s body has been found. So sad.

  • owenmeany // October 21, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    What are you talking about Anna? I never told anyone to keep their comments to themselves? I am sorry but I am very confused. And quite honestly so are you.

  • jazmin623 // October 21, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    I feel sorry for poor Tengard.

  • jazmin623 // October 21, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Why were some comments unfavorable toward the Anthonys deleted? They were by no means spam or posted by trolls. One was from Sherry, another Rene, what’s up with that? And why are the accusations against C & G never answered or responded to by their ’so called friends’ just sarcastic & evasive little brush offs by these oily sleazes as if the questions haven’t been on the minds of millions of people disgusted with their atrocious actions.

  • owenmeany // October 21, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    This is lilyolily – I had to reboot computer and haven’t logged back into my wordpress account yet.

    I am not going to comment on Blink’s articles here anymore – it seems fair for to stick to Dave’s topics while I’m here so I’m sorry if I got this too far off topic.

    The comments have gone on at length at both of Dave’s and Blink’s sites about this photo. The facts as I understand them are:

    1) There is a cropped version of the photo in the discovery evidence and its of obvious great interest to LE. I have read ALL 2,000 plus pages of Cindy’s, George’s and Lee’s recent interviews. There is a reason for their interest in this photo and the Anthony’s obvious cover up of it.

    2) A commenter at Blink’s discovered an uncropped version of this photo – it happened to appear in the October 2008 cover of the Globe.

    3) Blink wrote EXACTLY this: A cropped version of a photo of Caylee wearing the tshirt that is believed recovered with her remains.

    What she meant was a cropped version of a photo of Caylee wearing the tshirt – the same tshirt that is believed recovered with her remains.

    I agree – it could be misinterpreted to mean that the photo was recovered with her remains but that is NOT what was meant. You and IVOIRE at Blink are the only ones that I’ve seen that took this to mean the photo was with the remains. As I said before – the sentence could be misinterpreted.

    I am not going to comment on this any further because I was just trying to clear it up before it became an assumption that is wrong. I did not mean to stir anything up and I NEVER told anyone to keep their comments to themselves. I wouldn’t do that.

    Thanks -

  • linda from Jersey // October 21, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Jazzmin623 I am confused by your two posts.
    first you feel sorry for Tengard, and then your second one seems to contradict that. Just trying to see what you really mean .

  • jazmin623 // October 21, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Um friends with the Anthony’s….being ironic, snide, Linda from NJ, also I’m testing what happens when you register. I thought I could delete my posts, looks like I was wrong. sorry dave. I don’t like this blog very much & won’t be back.

  • linda from Jersey // October 21, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Jazzmin, I don’t think you offended anyone, it’s a legitimate question that thousands of people agree with you on.

  • jilligan45 // October 21, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Hmmm….. Sarcastic? Oily Sleaze? Was that towards me?

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    It is not tengard’s job to answer questions regarding her friends. She owes none of us anything. If you want to ask questions about G&C maybe you should try and call them. Would you want your friends going around spreading your business? Do we not all have people we can trust and talk too? I don’t like the Anthony’s ways but just because someone is there friend does not give us the right to attack and ask personal questions about them. Everyone assumes they lie all the time what makes you think they tell the truth to their friends? I don’t get it. Like I said I have a lot of issues with the dynamic of that family but it is not Tengards job to answer my questions. jmo

  • jazmin623 // October 21, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Laura…yet they come here & insert their opinions & disapproval of those asking the questions. Therefore opening themselves up to my type of response & criticism…
    Calling people who post names saying they have ’small peanuts’ that sort of thing.

    Who cares anymore really…they are pathetic attention seekers just like their criminal pals…if not they certainly wouldn’t be here bragging about their friendship with the parents of a remorseless baby killer & the worst grandparents on the planet who should be charged with obstruction of justice, hiding evidence, malicious slander whatever the legal term is for that…etc etc. I’d rather be friendless than claim these subhumans as part of my life.
    JMO.

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Just because the A’s do things we don’t like does not mean that their friends are criminals. As far as I know the A’s aren’t criminals only their daughter. Yes they befriended her and let her get away with stuff most parents wouldn’t but that is not Tengards fault! It is no different when we degrade a innocent person then when the A’s do it.

  • jazmin623 // October 21, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Oh & don’t tell me I don’t know them, I know enough facts about the Anthonys, plenty enough to say with certainty birds of a feather flock together…look at the Milsteads, Dom Casey all have shady in the Milsteads case criminal pasts. Look at the defense on Casey’s side all have no ethics have been in trouble with the bar & things to be ashamed of in their past too more so than the average lawyer.

    They have no consience or qualms about setting a sociopathic, lying, theiving baby killer free. Hey it might not be so bad if they getr what they are fighting for. casey will just go right back to stealing from her parents, lying, maybe killing, this time she might wipe them out financially for good, why should I care. I just want her punished for killing her beautiful little girl, call me crazy.

    It takes a special low on the bottom of the food chain to be part of this group of bottom feeders is all I’m saying & the anthony’s ‘friends’ are definately part of societies underseam.

  • Sherry // October 21, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Welcome to the site, jazmin623!
    I don’t think Dave has deleted any comments of mine that have been unfavorable to the Ants. I’m usually careful about saying anything untoward about them here. Perhaps one slipped in?
    Nevertheless, Dave usually sets us straight for such comments instead of deleting them.

    So sad that the child’s body is found. I need to hear of a missing child being found alive and unhurt…. :cry:

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    One more thing Tengard does not attack me or anyone for our opinions when they are just that she may something if it is false or not fact. Like I said I am not a fan, but I am not in their shoes and I believe I know how I would handle myself and it would be none of the things you listed. I just think you have only been around for a minute Tengard herself says she does not agree with all they do but regardless she is a friend and I am sure she is not the only friend they have. I doubt they act the way they do all the time. I am not asking you to change your opinion of them but I think you should give tengard a chance before you attack her. We could all use a friend like her. You know one that does not turn on you and talk chit behind your back. jmo

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    You have not been around so let me say I lost twins I know what loss is about and yes it is HORRIBLE and I would like to see justice served on Casey. The Anthony’s did not murder Caylee! In the USA we are innocent until proven guilty and blah blah blah she has to have a attorney that is how it works. I think if Dave his rathers he would rather you spew your hatred for the A’s without attacking his commenters.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    So jazmin – exactly what do you expect to gain by your drive-by comments calling others subhuman, etc. ? Does it make you feel a little bigger? ‘Cause I hope somebody is getting something from it – would hate for it to go into the big echo chamber of these same types of comments out there on the blogs. For some of us it just gets really tiresome and boring. That’s why we’re here and not where you usually comment.

  • snoopysleuth // October 21, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    I am stepping in here for one reason, and one reason only, DAVE.

    I do not take sides in these back and forth issues that seem to get nowhere but create animosity among most of you.

    If you have any RESPECT for Dave and the work he does for you, quit making his blog into a BATTLEGROUND.

  • Thinkerbelle // October 21, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    I’ve been reading through some of todays comments…now I know what Dave meant yesterday.

    He doesn’t want the type of comments that bash, only the ones that discuss. And, from what I know of him, one may leave a dissenting view if it is done tactfully.

    Reading a bunch of beacthing could get really irritating and makes others super sensitive.

    Just My Opinion as Always

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Annie – Sorry, I had to step out for a few hours, but I found you. Thank you. I do try to be fair and just, but like anyone else, I have my moments. I hope you find it comfortable here. Please comment any time you want and keep reading. I’ve written about a lot of different things.

  • snoopysleuth // October 21, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    I suggest you all take a few deep breaths. Go have a nice iced tea or hot tea.

    Dave went out this afternoon and look what he has to face when he comes back. Not only does he have his own health issues to deal with, his father is very ill. Let’s have some compassion for the one who makes this blog possible.

    Think about it!!

  • Carol // October 21, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Dave: I wonder if the Globe could have done some computer work to make the shirt look like the one of interest. Is that possible? I don’t know much about computers. I do know I don’t trust the rag mags for true info.

  • snoopysleuth // October 21, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Dave~~ I guess I got here too late to read …delete my comments in bold, if you want. I got a little hot under the collar when I just saw what was happening , once again.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Who is this jazmin623 and why is she so upset? What is your problem, girl?

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Carol isn’t that the truth about the rag mags. Dave sorry if I was out of line I don’t get the personal attacks on Tengard. I am taking the night off no more comments, because I feel bad that you are probably upset! Oh and the reason I am taking the night off is to punish myself not YOU! :)

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Yesterday morning was it Hadley. Today, it’s someone else. Only closed minded people have the power to condemn. That is because they know nothing but condemnation. Everybody must conform to the laws of their petty little world, but ONLY IN THEIR PETTY LITTLE WORLD. Not here.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    I like your help, Snoopy. I would like to leave it, if I may.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    I am going to take the evening off too. When you’re not here Dave – I feel the need to defend anyone getting attacked. Now I wish I had not responded at all.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    Carol – I worked in graphics for over 25 years and I am a pro on Photoshop. Yes, absolutely, that could have been altered because I could have easily done it. Do I think it was? No, because the cover of that magazine printed 2 months before Caylee was found. There lies the key.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Hey, everybody! Don’t let some bad apple come in here and spoil the bushel. Who ever heard of this jazmin girl? Yet, she came out of nowhere and starting throwing crap around. You all did the right thing. You stood your ground. I wish I happened to be here because she never would have gotten past her first comment.

  • Annie // October 21, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    Dave, I beleive, I read everything I could find on the internet that you wrote, took the better part of 8 hours, missed all the abuse today. If, I get up early on Thurs. I’ll copy a list of your writtings and see if I missed anything.

  • snoopysleuth // October 21, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    Owenmeany, Laura, and everyone….please carry on here. By making an exit, you are giving in to one individual to planned on disrupting this blog. Please please please, defeat jazmin’s purpose and STAY.

    Do it for Dave and Snoopy, okey dokey. Now I am even starting to sound like Marinade.

    Supper break….bbl PS…I never did get to read any more of the deps, maybe this evening, I hope.

  • Carol // October 21, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    I guess I missed when the Globe photo came out. Sorry

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Okay snoopy! You must finish reading the depos tonight. I thought I upset you and that was not my intent it is getting old all the attacks lately!!

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    Jazmin623-No “unfavorable Anthony comments” were deleted. The comments were broken into 2 parts: Older Comments and Newer Comments. Maybe those comments are in the Older Comments section. No?

    Whoosh…she was a meanie. I know this case and the Anthony family , in particular, can tick some people off, but my goodness!

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    I was just gonna take a little break – not a permanent vacation! hahaha

    Yet here I am again . . .

    If Dave’s got such a great attitude – I suppose I’ve gotta let it catch on.

    Snoop – we’re used to you ruling the roost when Dave is busy. I’m not good at it – I know this now. I don’t like to see a regular commenter get slammed and not one of us defend them. It puts me right back in 4th grade. :-)

  • GUMBO // October 21, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Hi Dave, glad to see you get some recognition for the work you do! Been reading like crazy trying to catch up, don’t know if I ever will….

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Can I puhleeze ask a question about the Blink article about the Globe picture and please correct me if I am wrong and please, somebody answer.
    Blink says: One could make the leap that the person selling it would have had knowledge of what she was wearing when 34 month old Caylee Marie met her tragic end.

    “Make the leap”…. So the question is: Make the leap is not “fact” that the person who sold it had knowledge of what Caylee was wearing when she met her tragic end”. So this is speculation, right?

    I don’t want to sound like a moron. I have been having trouble getting through all the comments, but the comments seem to find this to be a fact. AND did I miss something that this is the picture that INDEED was what Jose was freaking out about?

    I hope I don’t sound like a dope. But I would really like this clarified.

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    Well Snoopy, that big ole meanie doesn’t scare me! Dave (and YOU) will not be rid of me, you poor souls!

    She/he (jazz) seems to think people are guilty by association. So maybe jazz thinks Tony, Amy, Jesse etc. are just as guilty as Casey.

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Lily, you go girl!

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    LindaNY – I think you understand the shirt/photo issue exactly. It is pure speculation – and for some a leap to say that whomever sold the photo to Globe knew what shirt would be found with Caylee. Some think its too much of a coincidence and some think it is just a coincidence. I have not made up my mind yet.

  • snoopysleuth // October 21, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Linda from NY~~We do not know for a fact that Baez sold that pic. We do not know for a fact that Baez or anyone, except for Casey, knew what Caylee was wearing when she met her demise.

    You mentioned that it was stated at Blinks, “one could take the leap.” Making a leap is pure speculation and not fact.

    By now, I would assume LE knows who sold the photo to the magazine.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    Wow, Annie, I’m surprised you aren’t suffering from an overdose of marinade after 8 hours. I am impressed. I guess you found the pages and pages of articles here?

    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/marinade-daves-caylee-anthony-posts/

    That’s a lot of work, but I certainly do thank you for your interest and fortitude.

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    Thank you, thank you Lily, I really thought I was missing something. My thought is: coincidence. Is that the photo Jose was gettin crazy about at Cindy’s depo. Or is that some speculation too? It would make sense if Jose was getting “upset” at the depo because the State was asking Cindy about items Casey gave to Jose and Jose was “objecting” to a photo (?). So if he was objecting to THAT photo, it would make sense coz THAT photo appeared, and was obviously sold to the GLOBE, before Casey was re-arrested in October, therefore that could be how Jose is being paid, somewhat? I am thinking out loud and will bring this by Snoopy’s for the depo discussion.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Snoopy is 100% right. Those people purposely come in here to tear our community apart. Don’t let that happen.

    As Snoopy the Bare says, “Only you can prevent blog fires.”

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Dave, where are ya?

  • Sherry // October 21, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    I’m taking back my welcome! She says she won’t be back. Good. Attacking Tengard was a low thing to do by a low minded person. Laura, you said it so well in defense of Tengard that I have nothing more to add. Tengard is a good friend here to us, too.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Darn, Carol, I must have missed that issue in the supermarket that week, too, but you can see the cover here, along with the cropped one:

    http://daveknechel.wordpress.com/

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    Thank you too Snoop, will leave it here. I was thinking more along the lines, that Casey would have sold it. But, same difference, I guess. Thank you for clearing this up for me.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    Liliolily – I should make it a rule that everyone read the rules before they are allowed to comment.

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    Thanks,as usual Dave, for coming back with some comic relief! BLOG FIRES! lol

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Hi, GUMBO! It’s very nice to see you again. It’s nice to get a little recognition, too, but it’s best when I get it from you and everyone else who likes to come in here and enjoy themselves. Thank you, and you might not be able to catch up with it all.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Dave – maybe you could give us a strategy of how you want us to deal with the drive-bys when you’re busy writing (hopefully?) We could all agree to stick with it and at least we wouldn’t have misunderstandings between one another.

    ‘Cause I predict its possible this will happen again (saracasm). Tengard’s pretty tuff – she holds her own but I hate to leave someone hanging without support.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    LindaNY – your last comment – exactly how I see where the issue becomes somewhat more than a coincidence.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    I think the key word in what Blink wrote, and it’s very important to note because she carefully chose it, was “could.” One could make the leap is nothing more than a supposition. I suppose it could have happened that way. Not yes, not no. It’s that simple.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    My pleasure, Linda, but now it’s time for Jeopardy.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Annie – I think you’ve marinated Dave long enough. Throw him on the grill already!

    Tiny anecdote – my 2nd son – when he was 4 – on vacation driving thru Colorado – said “look that guy is marinating on the side of the road!”

  • snoopysleuth // October 21, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    Dave~~you should of read the comment I just got at my blog. I was going to leave it as an example of a deranged human being. My zapper puts out blog fires real good.

    I haven’t got the time to put up with that foolishness. That is not why I blog and comment.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Liltolily – I think if I’m not around, the best thing would be to just ignore them. The more they get noticed, the more they love to see you burn. As soon as I get back, I will delete them if necessary. If it’s really, really bad, Snoopy and Laura know how to contact me and Snoopy knows how to step on stinky feet. If neither of them are around, my number is on the sidebar. I get a text message if anyone leaves a voice one.

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    Snoopy, I wann see what the deranged human being said….Oh, were you taling about me??

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    Oh no, Dave. If yo are watching Jeapardy, I should be watching Ghost Whisperer!

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    hmmmm I went into moderation at your blog Snoopy but I promise it was a totally innocent comment!

    Thanks for the direction Dave. I’ll be back after a bit – my dogs are staring a hole through me which means I should be making dinner.

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    LILTolily. And I thought my typing was getting bad. I think I need a break.

  • GUMBO // October 21, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Please help! I was reading at Blinks and it seems she doesn’t think Caylee’s shirt or shorts were on her when she was placed in the woods, but just put in the bag with her. I don’t understand this. I have read until my eyes feel like they have been scrubbed with a brillo pad! Do ya’ll think this is the case and can someone please explain? THANK YOU!

  • snoopysleuth // October 21, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    owenmeany~~you went to my blog as lily. You are approved for both names now. All newbies go to moderation at first.

    Linda from NY~~it was a dingbat that has tried to access my before with a little venom.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Gumbo – I don’t know what to think? I know Blink studied the autopsy reports and there are certain reasons (graphic) that give sound evidence of why the shorts were not actually on the baby when the remains were dumped. And Blink has just recently changed her mind about the shirt. She thinks Caylee may not have been wearing it either.

    I respect Blink a lot. I hate to sound like the all-things Blink expert because I’m not. This is just how I interpret her articles. So I may very easily be wrong. And I swore to myself I wouldn’t go off topic on Dave’s blog anymore. If you comment over on Blink’s blog – I’ll try to answer you there!

  • Vicky // October 21, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Gumbo – I believe that there was a mention of that possibility in the correspondence between Florida LE & the FBI in one of the discovery documents released several weeks ago. It was just mentioned as a possibility and not stated as fact.

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    I know that brillo pad well, GUMBO!

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    You can talk about Blink and her ideas here. I have no objection to that whatsoever. As for Caylee wearing or not wearing that top, I’d have to go over the documents again, but in the end, is it really all that important? Caylee was found dead. That top was near or at her remains. Because of the photograph, it helped LE identify her. Who sold the Globe the picture is the real puzzler.

  • GUMBO // October 21, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    It just seems odd to me that she would not have any cloths on….

  • snoopysleuth // October 21, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    lily~~as we continue to try and be armchair detectives, we work with info we have thus far. As more info becomes available, it is not unusual to look in another direction and do a complete 360.

    We believed from the facts presented that Caylee was killed on June 16th, possibly at or near her home. Then along came James Thompson and look what happened. Until we found out that James did not see Caylee and Casey at Walmart on June 16th, some of us began to change our minds about when and where Caylee was murdered. Thank God Dave went to Walmart and put that one to rest as not factual.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Snoopy you’re right. I was one willing to change my mind about date of murder when Mr Thompson came along. Thank you Dave for bringing factsy back.

    Bad attempt at a Timberlake joke – sexy back . . .

    tap tap tap – is this thing on?

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Gumbo – to me it would be very disturbing to think that Caylee wasn’t in clothes. But then again, its Florida and here in Texas when my boys were little, and it was hot and humid, they went days on end in just their diapers or pullups and MAYBE a pair of shorts over. Depended on how much potty training we were doing.

  • shyloh // October 21, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Well I am certainly not an Anthony supporter by any means and Dave knows this about me. And he treats me with respect. I believe the Anthony’s are trying to cover up what their daughter did. But I don’t have to call them names to get my point across. I also don’t understand how anyone can be friends with the Anthony’s . But that’s just me. That entire family scares me.

    I think Dave does a great job here! That’s why I am here.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Absolutely guaranteed, that Walmart never had interior doors.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    You know me, lilyolily, just the facts.

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    And I enjoy you being here, too, shyloh.

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Gumbo, nothing in this case surprises me or astonishes me anymore. Clothes/no clothes, who knows!

    Hey I really wasn’t trying to rhyme!

    And right on Dave. That little girl was found dead. A littl girl. And there are so many others. I’m pooped. I OD’d on all things Anthony since like last Thursday. I really did go overboard.

  • Laura // October 21, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    good night.

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Goodnight Dave, ‘nite Laura, Snoopy, liliowen(hehe), Shyloh..Goodnight John Boy…..zzzzz

  • Linda From New York // October 21, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    oops, g’nite Sherry, Vicky…

  • Marinade Dave // October 21, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Good night, everyone. Finally, an early night…

  • shyloh // October 21, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    haha I have been called lots of things. NEVER JOHN BOY!

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Awww I missed the nite nite’s – hope you all sleep well.

  • snoopysleuth // October 21, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Animal activity=no clothes left on what was left of the skeletal remains. Why is so important? The child was murdered, whether she was clothed or not is of no consequence. The ME could not rule cause of death other than homicide by unknown means.

  • Annie // October 21, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Yep, Dave read it all. Thought since I defend you I needed background. Loved all the articles – diabetees/rules everthing. Try googling yourself – lots of stuff on you. Back to reading depos on Thurs. Sorry about being so nosy.

  • Sherry // October 21, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Good night, dear Caylee’s friends!

  • Wally // October 21, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Wow, dave met a judge.

  • snoopysleuth // October 21, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Goodnight everyone et bonsoir mes amies.

  • Cheyenne // October 21, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Dave met THE Judge ;)

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Well Snoopy I kind of think it was important whether or not Caylee was clothed. It puts to mind whether or not she was ever cared for/groomed dressed to go out that day. It also calls to mind some possible defense scenarios (i.e., drowning in bathtub or pool). I am very interested in knowing the events that lead up to the actual commitment of this crime. I feel we owe it to Caylee to think of her day.

  • Vicky // October 21, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Snoopy- Seems to me that to some extent Cindy is definately accomplishing some part of her mission. Her mistruths are leading people to forget that minor points simply don’t matter. I agree, the facts remain that Caylee was murdered. They do not have to prove exactly how, or what she was or was not wearing, or the exact moment of her death, or if Cindy and/or George saw them on July 16th.
    It just has to be proved that Casey was the person who murdered her.
    And all evidence released to date points straight in her direction.

  • snoopysleuth // October 21, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Lily~~Dr G ruled the death as homicide by unknown means. Dr G would have had access to exactly how the remains were found, where pieces of clothing were found and charts showing where bones were buried or scattered. I cannot understand, at this stage of the case, what we would gain or lose from knowing if she was clothed or not at the time of death. We would only be speculating. To make her ruling, Dr G had to take into consideration more than just examining the skeleton remains and tiny fragments of bones.

  • noor // October 21, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    I just wish George and Cindy would stop lying.

    Oh, and I think that ” Tengard ” really is Cindy.

    Night everyone.

  • lilyolily // October 21, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Ok well no biggie. I just think somebody should think about what Caylee’s day was like on ‘that’ day. Not for any reason but to be with her.

  • gngrsnap626 // October 21, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Tengard is dragnet spelled backwards no?

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 12:01 am

    Snoopy why are you lecturing me? I just have an opinion like you about what I choose to speculate on – including Dr. G’s evidence. I just don’t get it. But then again, its way past my bedtime.

  • Sherry // October 22, 2009 at 12:08 am

    Tengard is not Cindy. She is her friend AND she is our friend here and well respected. You need to brush up on Dave’s rules here, noor. You can find them in the sidebar or header. You are not new here so I am surprised by your comment against Tengard. Shouldn’t you know better?
    YUP! Tengard is dragnet spelled backwards but that is not how she got her name. It escapes my mind now how she got it.

  • Sherry // October 22, 2009 at 12:11 am

    See ya on the morrow, sweet lily!

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 12:13 am

    Nite Sherry

  • Rita from Luxembourg // October 22, 2009 at 4:40 am

    Good morning to you all.
    Many thanks to Linda from NY and Beatrice for your kind words to me. Dave hope you fell better today.
    I guess Shyloh points out how can someone be friends with the Anthonys. For sure this family is scrary but how can we know how they were really in the real life just before the drama. The image we have is the one reflected by the media and their behavior which is not adequate to the situation sometimes. This drama makes all the bad come out. They try to cover up their daughter…we think all think that it is not the right thing to do but I am sure that it is awful for parent to admit that their beloved daughter is a monster. Denial can make people do stupid things…

  • owenmeany // October 22, 2009 at 7:11 am

    Morning Rita. Nice thoughts in your comment.

    I’m taking a break today from the Anthony Insanity. Hope you all have a happy day!

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 7:19 am

    Oops gotta remember to log in with wordpress before I post. Anyway great day to you all.

    LilOweLil

  • Rita from Luxembourg // October 22, 2009 at 7:24 am

    have a nice day too owenmeany :-D

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 8:47 am

    Good morning all.

    Dave, new post? I look forward to seeing what you have written. Have you read the depo’s?
    And how’s your Father feeling? I hope better.

    I will be taking a break from the Anthony case today as well. Got stuff to do, out of the house. Those depo’s beat me up.

    Lilowelil-Funny!

  • GUMBO // October 22, 2009 at 9:08 am

    I enjoy this blog and read here frequently. I have been working long hours for a while and now I am trying to catch up. I asked a question last night about Caylee’s clothing. It was disturbing to me that she may not have been dressed. From the comments I was not the only one who had questions about it. However, one of the comments stated “The child was murdered, whether she was clothed or not is of no consequence.” If it didn’t matter to me I would not have asked the question. I have made comments in the past and received this kind of snitty response. I don’t enjoy being made to look like an idiot, and to be honest it hurt my feelings. No more questions of no consequence from me, I will go back to being a lurker.

  • lulu // October 22, 2009 at 9:14 am

    Well, Gumbo, it is important in this sense: the absence of clothes indicates to me that she was murdered at home. What do you think?

  • lulu // October 22, 2009 at 9:17 am

    Just responded to Gumbo, but that comment and my response are missing.

  • GUMBO // October 22, 2009 at 9:32 am

    Exactly lulu, it brings up many questions for me.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 9:39 am

    Good morning – My answer to the clothing question is I don’t know. I would like to guess that she was wearing the clothes because, for the life of me, I can’t figure out a reason to kill a child when naked and then stuff one set of clothing in the bag, along with her body. For her afterlife? If she was nude, then so be it. What’s the point of throwing a blouse and shorts in with her?

    Casey made a significant statement after the body as found by saying something about her clothing not being found. Does that imply she wasn’t wearing any or that clothes were placed with the body? I don’t know.

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 9:41 am

    Dave, I have stumbled upon a video of a man claiming that Casey was with him in Pittsburg and had been working for an escort service called Sweet Angels or something like that. His lawyer bounces up and down in the background like a schoolboy needing to pee. This was dated back on March 20, 2009.

    Have you heard anything about this? I’ve missed alot.

  • snoopysleuth // October 22, 2009 at 9:56 am

    Lily~~I apologize if my comments come across as a lecture. I just stated some facts as I see them. The last thing I would want to do is come across as a bully. You have every right to speculate on what you think happened.

    Maybe it would be best that you address your questions to Dave, in that way, you may feel more at ease when he replies to you. I don’t mind in the least, anything to avoid a conflict, I will go along with.

    Goodmorning Dave et al…. bbl

  • snoopysleuth // October 22, 2009 at 10:07 am

    Dave~~after reading a couple more comments, maybe I do come across as snarky. I don’t know if that is the proper word. I did not realize that I was being so insensitive.

    If I have offended anyone, my deepest apologies.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 10:09 am

    Good morning, Thinkerbelle. I’ve heard of several stories about Casey and prostitution. I even saw a porn site with a picture of Casey alongside a porn actress made to look just like her. Some people were convinced it was her and you do not want to know what she had in her mouth. It was an almost identical pose except for that one thing. The site goes on to say a video of Casey will be released soon. That was last year sometime. Someone recently pointed that site out to me (YES, it’s still there) and my response was that it had been debunked months and months earlier. Where is this, so called, porn video starring Casey? Coming soon?

    In the Pittsburgh account, I watched that video. It’s a joke. The people in it are actors. It’s meant to be campy. Casey never flew anywhere. Look at the end credits of the video. The actors’ names are listed. The old man, the pimp lawyer and the “reporter.”

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 10:11 am

    Snoopy, It is probably none of my business, but, I don’t think you come across as snarky. It is my opinon that some are extra sensitive and view this as a real time friendship, addressing nuances where there are none.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 10:12 am

    Good morning, Snoopy. I know you would never mean to insult anyone. I think we’re at a juncture where everyone is a little frazzled. It’s been a long road and people are frustrated that this case seems to be going on and on and on. People want instant justice and the wheels turn ever so slowly.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 10:14 am

    I think people are being overly sensitive. On a day of fun banter, the same comments would probably be taken a different way. No insults were intended.

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 10:16 am

    Right Dave, It also states it was Black Sheep Production or something to that effect. The other night someone posted on your blog, with music symbols in between Baa, Baa. That was the one calling us sheep.

    The symbol also looks familar. I saw it on the arm of a cable guy not long ago and looked it up. I think it may be affiliated with the Black Panthers. He claimed he had been stationed in Korea and that it was a tatoo of his little girl’s hand. I thought he was full of it.

  • Sherry // October 22, 2009 at 10:18 am

    Good morning, Caylee’s friends!
    On the shirt-
    That Lee and George deny having ever seen it doesn’t bother me except that they may have been coached by Cindy to say that, of which I don’t have proof of and don’t really care. But Cindy denying it does bother me. The picture shows that such a shirt did belong to Caylee and from the looks of the picture it was taken about two-three months before Caylee’s demise.
    Now, why I think Cindy denied having such a shirt, and her adamant denial concerning it was a bit of a red flag (she would never dress Caylee in such a shirt) is because then it can be blamed on the “nanny”. The “nanny” had clothes and diapers for Caylee, so Casey would have her mother believe-and she did/does believe it (okay, I don’t believe that…). Maybe that is why the photo was cropped so Cindy couldn’t say anything about the pic being taken outdoors?
    There needs to be a picture of Caylee wearing that shirt while inside the house to debunk what Cindy said. And, there just may be.

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 10:32 am

    Good Morning, Sherry!

  • Annie // October 22, 2009 at 10:41 am

    Hi Group – Finally finished Lee and Cindy’s depo’s. I hope this doesn’t sound to stupid, but, on the last few pages of each depo there are pages that say Anthony.Lee.Anthony.7.30.WPD.
    What is that? Can someone explain!!!

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 10:49 am

    There would have to be a picture of Caylee wearing the shirt with Cindy in the photo as well, don’t you think, Sherry. One could claim Casey was in the house when her parents weren’t home.

  • Sherry // October 22, 2009 at 10:53 am

    Hi, Thinker!
    That parody of Casey being an escort and was in Pittsburgh was such a sick joke. It amazed me that people in blogdom actually believed it.
    On that porn pic Dave mentioned, I admit it, I fell for it, at first. It was in the back of my mind about some pics that LE said would shock George. I also did a google search on Casey Anthony-porn-and some guy’s name (Anthony Rusciano?) and found a hit. However, I could not access the sight on my old comp which had it set to keep from going on such sites by the previous owner. The description was rather raw and when I went to search it again to pass it along to some commentor wanting it, it was gone. Just like the pics on Casey’s photobucket was gone. Now, to my point. If that porn pic Dave mentioned had been of Casey, LE would have confiscated it and no one would have been able to access it. That it can still be accessed tells me that its not Casey.

  • Sherry // October 22, 2009 at 10:59 am

    True, Thinker! That would be the best bet.
    I’m thining that both Casey and Cindy did the laundry in that house so I think Cindy did see it at one time, at least.

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 11:02 am

    Sherry, those letters like that usually don’t stand up to the heat of the dryer…it would look like crap real fast.

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Hi Annie, I have no clue what that would be about. I didn’t look at the last pages because the photos and such seemed unreconizable, to me that is.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 11:10 am

    Hi, Annie – My guess – and this is only a guess – is that the document was saved in Word Perfect. Don’t quote me on it because I still haven’t gotten to any of those depositions yet.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 11:16 am

    There’s also a photo of Casey circulating that shows her walking out of a gated driveway, suspiciously looking like she had just finished prostituting herself out to some rich guy. She’s wearing giant sunglasses and the photo is not a close-up. Her face is looking downward. It implies that she’s a high end whore. I’ll bet my life that it is not her. It is an actress made up to look like her or someone found the pic elsewhere and thought it looks like her. At no time have I found a correlation between that picture and the investigation.

  • Sherry // October 22, 2009 at 11:29 am

    Thinker, at least someone is thinkin’! :mrgreen:
    True again! Hand wash? Hang dry? lol

  • Olive // October 22, 2009 at 11:32 am

    JMOO……Casey’s statement about how they haven’t found Caylee’s clothes yet…..I take it as if she meant that if they had found her clothes, they would have found Caylee.

    Supposedly, all clothing items were accounted for. Cindy said that Casey was removing articles of clothing for herself, but none of Caylee’s were gone.

    Caylee was dressed in those clothes and the animals were the cause of separating the shorts from the shirt, as they were moving her body around. Sorry if that’s too graphic.

    I don’t think any shoes were found at the crime scene because I don’t think Caylee was wearing any because she was at home when she was killed.

    Again….MOO

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 11:46 am

    I think the same way, Olive. I’m reminded of an old Hitchcock story when he had his TV show. Although totally unrelated to this crime or the missing shoes, it just popped in my mind. I think it went like this…

    A wife finds out her husband has been cheating on her. He comes home from one of his trysts and she confronts him. In a fit of rage, she wallops him with a frozen leg of lamb she had gotten out to cook later. Unfortunately, she kills him. She places the meat in the oven and calls the police. I believe her husband was a cop. Others cop comes to investigate. She tells them someone must have followed him home and confronted him. As a cop, he must have had enemies. Meanwhile, as the cops investigate, they discover an odd shaped wound on his head. Cops being suspicious, they look at everything in her house to see if she could have done it. Meanwhile, the roast is cooking. As the investigation winds down, she and another cop who worked with her husband become close. It is apparent they have taken a liking to each other, as the cop relates the story of her husband’s known philandering. They get so close, she invites him to stay for dinner. There’s no reason to let a perfectly good leg of lamb go to waste. In the end, you see the cop devouring all of the evidence.

    Just a little story to help settle the nerves today.

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 11:50 am

    That’s good, Dave. Sounds like the scenerio on “Fried Green Tomatoes.”

  • lulu // October 22, 2009 at 11:52 am

    What was Casey’s exact comment? “They haven’t even found the clothes she was wearing”?

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 11:54 am

    Interesting, Thinkerbelle, I never watched that movie. I always thought of it as a chick flick for some reason.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 11:56 am

    I think that’s what it was, lulu. Could it have been made after she was told something about bones being discovered, but not wearing clothes?

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 11:58 am

    Some clothes had to be missing from the house unless Casey took Caylee to the Nanny only wearing a pull up. What happened to the pink shirt and jean shorts?

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    By the way good afternoon. Dave did you email Tengard? I noticed she has not been back since yesterday when she was called those names. I just hope she knows her “friends” here does not think that.

  • Sherry // October 22, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    Dave, when Casey said, They haven’t even found her clothes yet, it was when Tracy was taking her to the probation officer or the lawyer’s office-before the remains were found, before she was formerly charged with Caylee’s murder.

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    It was also at the time they were reporting finding clothing here and there…in or near Blanchard Park, and in or near the airport.

    And, yes, as Lee would put it, it was one of Padilla’s “minions” that made that claim.

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    Dave, it could be viewed as a chick flick since the leading characters were women. However, some men were featured in the movie.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Hi, Laura. In answer to your question, yes, I did. Today. Just now. I was tired last night and I had a lot of things to do this morning, but it is sent.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Thanks, Sherry. Things tend to blur after awhile. I wonder what made her think of clothing before anything else?

  • NorthernLight // October 22, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    well shucks …. I read an earlier comment where during your conversation with Judge S. he asked if you had a lot of Canadians on your blog. Does he have something against us???? hehe ……

    Can’t make a lot of comments from my work computer, but still reading along ….. still loving it here.

    Keep up with all you do.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    Thank you Dave!!!

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    Thank you, Northern Light. I had to break up the comments because of the amount, but they are all still here and available to read. There’s something at the base of these comments that direct you to older or previous ones.

    I’m very glad you love it here. Please continue to do so. Oh, I was just kidding about the judge and Canadians.

  • justmuopinion // October 22, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    Hello, I have been reading along for a while but never commented before. Dave you are a very good writer, I enjoy your comments and findings.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Thank you very much, justmuopinion. A lot of people tell me that and I just can’t figure them out. But it is very nice to hear and extremely appreciated. Please join in any time you want.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Anything for you, Laura.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    I just sent you a email. Maybe you can reply to this one so I KNOW you got it?!?! lol

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    I just replied to your e-mail, Laura.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    Sorry I missed your comment from this morning, Rita from Luxembourg. I try to ay hello to everyone, but sometimes I forget the early morning ones that come in while I am sleeping.

  • Olive // October 22, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    I have a problem with the description of what Caylee was wearing when last seen. Was that what she was wearing on June 9th? Or was it what she was wearing on June 16th? And it takes off from there. I can’t believe any those statements, they are exactly alike and Casey lied about all of the other details relating to her initial statement. For me….this is a scripted version of what Caylee was wearing, and not the truth. JMO

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    I’m almost certain that George mentioned a pink top when he initially gave a statement to police about June 16. This was right after Caylee was missing and the Anthonys still thought she was alive.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    This page is loading very slow also! I sent one back Dave. I do not believe what Casey said about the clothes, and not sure how I feel about what George remembered but I do believe him more then her!!

  • NorthernLight // October 22, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Just briefly read back through some of the “earlier” comments and wanted to add my .02 cents to the mix on a few things …..

    1) G&C can take a vacation any time they want as far as I’m concerned and it is NOBODY’S business but theirs. Like most, I don’t always agree with the things they say and do, but we are only seeing a very limited and select piece of their behaviors. Can’t imagine how I’d be holding up.
    2) If I had cameras on me every time I stepped out of my house, I’m sure I would have been caught doing something unseemly at some point. I think these people have enough to think about w/o worrying how they look. Sure the gum chewing is annoying, but really???? Is it worth criticism compared to what they are going through??? Are their looks, haircuts, clothing etc etc etc to be ridiculed at every point? She’s lost weight, her clothes are ugly, she wore green today. Oh my my ….. come to my house on cleaning day. You’ll get an eyeful:)
    3. As for Cindy working, how the heck can she? Followed everywhere, constantly ridiculed. People at the Fox blog were reporting her to some professional association and demanding she have her nursing license revoked. SERIOUSLY …. do you want the woman to work or not??? YOu can’t suck and blow at the same time people. It’s not possible.
    4) Sunshine Law: Up in Canada, disclosure is to the defendant and their counsel ONLY (at least in Ontario). Even though you may be charged with a crime, you are bound by law to keep your disclosure about your own case, CONFIDENTIAL. Failure to do so can result in further charges. So, do I think that the case is being tried in the press b/c of the mass disclosure??? You bet your bippy. However, we are all bound by different laws depending on where we live. I just think some of the detail that has been put out there would put a saint in a bad light.

    No, I’m not a “supporter” …. but I’m not a hater either. I work in the judicial system and have for many years. I’ve learned to not judge but to wait for the evidence. Not stuff you hear in the news, bu the REAL FACTS HEARD IN OPEN COURT. You would be surprised how interesting and challenging it is to base a judgement on the facts. A very difficult job and I wouldn’t want to be a juror for love nor money.

    Okay I’m done …. carry on.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Well said, NorthernLight, especially the part about coming and going. People want to revoke her license to nurse and condemn her for not working. This is a typical mind on this subject. They want Cindy pretty much dead, but then they’ll have no one to complain about. What’s more important? Complaining or no longer having the person around to complain about? Oh well, it pretty much doesn’t matter. There’s always someone else to pick apart.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    Northern lights~~ I love it~ you can’t suck and blow folks! Very well said. I personally wish they could go back to work because trust me they would feel much better worrying less about this, focus elsewhere….

  • Vicky // October 22, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    I was talking to my daughter and she provided me with the answer for who sold the picture to the Globe. – Ricardo Morales

    Below is his interview with YM.

    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19736123/detail.html

  • NorthernLight // October 22, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    thank you Laura ….. got that from a lawyer that I work with lol.

    Dave I know it is the typical mind on the subject and it’s getting old. Even if Cindy holed up in her house and never spoke to the press again and never made another appearance in public, she’d be ridiculed. Then people would say “oh what’s the matter …. too afraid to come out and talk about it”. Ugh …. very frustrating.

    And regarding the photograph in the Globe, I didn’t have an “ah-ha” moment with it either. I think it’s a coincidence however that is my opinion only.

    Back to work for now. Later gators.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Very interesting, Vicky. It certainly does appear that Ricardo Morales is the culprit and that’s where the photograph came from. I wonder how rich he got off a dead girl? I mean that facetiously. No one seems to care as much when others make money, just the Anthonys.

    Thank you for bringing that to our attention, and a special thanks to your daughter.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    I knew it! I asked you about it and Dave I still think it is WRONG!

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    I fixed your name, NorthernLight.

    What’s interesting, yet sad, is how many people jumped the gun and blamed Casey and Baez for that picture in the Globe. It’s like people are begging for cryptic clues from Casey and will just make them up when they feel like it because that’s the way they make it fit.

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Popped in for a bit – the leg ‘o lamb story crrracked me up!

    Hope you are having a happy & smiles afternoon!

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    I know how you feel, Laura, but a lot of people seem to think it’s OK for the media to get rich off this crime, not to mention someone who wrote a book millions of people will most certainly buy. It seems that if someone says, writes and does something that shows the entire Anthony family in a bad light, then it’s OK to get rich off it. I’d bet you the farm there won’t be a stink over Morales or the Globe. All because it wasn’t an Anthony or Baez selling the pictures.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Dave and as you know I really don’t think it is okay for anyone to make money. I thought it was him because of the Globe email was around the same time. I bet Casey is hating all the choices she made in boyfriends, it seems to be biting her.

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    I reread RM’s interview and I do think he sold the 2 inside pictures to the Globe but not convinced he provided the cover. It would make the most sense except that to me Caylee seems older on the cover than in the other 2 pics. RM says they were taken NY DAY 2008. I don’t know

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    ohkaaaay? I guess talk to ya’ll later

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    If Morales sold the pics, then the gas cans Amy talks about seem to tie in as well. IMO

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    As far as I’m concerned, it is quite evident that Morales had the inside connection with the Globe. How conveniently coincidental it would be in order to believe that Casey and Baez were selling off images to the same magazine. That’s too much to swallow for me. Again, if the facts don’t fit, squeeze them in somehow.

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    All I’m saying is that the pics that show Ricardo playing drums with Caylee and the little inset picture – were apparently taken on New Year’s Day 2008.

    The pic on the cover ’seems’ to me to be a much later picture.

    That’s not to say its still not Ricardo’s picture. I’ve said it most likely is. I’m just trying to ‘date’ the shirt. Its just interesting – not stating any facts because honestly we don’t know which of the pictures LE is talking about with Ricardo in the interview because its not included in the discovery we’ve seen.

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Laura, that is probably why George and Lee immediately targeted Casey’s boyfriends…it’s a no-brainer!

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Thinkerbelle – Very good point. Casey was dating Ricardo all the way up til May or June so yes Lily it could be a little older then the January photo.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Dave the pages are so slooooowww!

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    FYI about Cindy not working. She said in her depo that she was on short-term disability, and is now on long-term disability. For what, don’t know.

    Goodafternoon Dave and all!

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Ya know DAve, I forgot about Ricardo Morales and the Globe. I don’t think in most cases people make things up “to fit”. I had forgotten about that also. There is tons and tons of info in this case.

    As far as any and all making money: That will ALWAYS happen in any high profile case. Whether the murder of a little girl, a football stars wife, a beautiful pregnant woman, a school teacher’s husband or wife, and on and on…I’m not sayin’ it’s right-It is just how it is.

    And there is very good reason for being ant-Anthony and yes, possibly hating them. They are high profile, just like the cases I mentioned above. When this is over and done with and Casey is in jail and all the books are written and the movies of the week are done and aired, I highly doubt they will be spoken of or thought of again.
    They will just be a “fond” memory. (sarcasm)

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Hi LNY!

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Laura I didn’t remember they dated that long. I need to review all of that again. There’s so much to remember!

    Hmmm wonder if they were dating on Mother’s Day and this was a picture that Ricardo took of them on that day?

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    lily I think they was. They broke up right before Tony. I believe they started dating end of May early June?.?. Snoopy probably knows the dates but she is m.i.a..

  • Kim // October 22, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    I am reading an essay written by Dylan Klebold’s mother, Susan. Dylan was one of the boys involved in Columbine. She is describing what it feels like to be perceived as the one who raised a monster

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    Hi LilyoweLily, Laura.

    I am remembering she went right from Ricardo to Tony, I think Amy may have mentioned in one of her interviews.

  • Tulessa // October 22, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    Dave? I had a post go to spam and I don’t even remember what thread I was on. :(

  • linda from jersey // October 22, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Just inserting my opinion about people making money off of this or any tragedy,. It’s a sad thing, but because of the public thirst for information, it’s become acceptable. I think everyone expects the “slimy fame seeking attorneys”, the “lowlife media types” the “money hungry authors” to do it, and because they are not really associated with the family it’s deemed ok. When it is a family member doing it, it becomes obscene. This case took it over the top, because they never miss a chance to televise themselves, yet when they are
    “followed” by the press, they consider it an invasion of their privacy. In a way, it kind of lends itself to what Northern Lights said regarding sucking & blowing. Only they can make the hoopla die down by staying quiet and off the media circut. Just my opinion.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Hi Linda NY! I agree about that time line because I think Ricardo got mad at Casey about it.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Dave we really need a new post the pages are taking FOREVER!!! PLEASE. :)

  • Thinkerbelle // October 22, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Tulesa-I left a comment for you…I also mistakenly got on the wrong thread because I had pushed the link next to your face. Anywho…I may have answered your question.

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    From what I get from Ricardo’s interview with LE – he and Casey started dating at the beginning of February and dated for 3 months (he was clear on this). So I guess they were over by end of April or early May. So if the cover picture to the Globe was provided by him he took it sometime between January 1 and early May. Wow and then 4-5 months later he’s cutting a sweet deal with Sharon at the Globe.

    I had forgotten how strange his interview was. He didn’t like LE asking him about deleted stuff on his computer at all.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Lily, Casey and Caylee stayed over night with him June 7th or June 9th, I can’t remember which but Cindy was out of town that night.

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Yeah Kim, I wrote a big blah, blah, bla on these pages as to why I don’t think it is fair to blame the parents when someone commits a crime, horribl or not. My brother went one way and my sister and I did not. We were all raised in the same home by wonderful parents…Why him and not my sister and I?
    Casey had a mind of her own (sane or not) and chose to be a theif, liar, murderer. I am SURE her parents did not raise her to be a murderer OR a thief.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Lily and the three of them slept in the same bed, Casey did stay all night with him after they broke up. I believe that is why he was upset because she moved on at lightening speed.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Spam! I waited 5 minutes for my comment to disappear. :(

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    I have nearly the exact same story with my bro and sis LindaNY.

    At some point we all make decisions that are ours to own and live with. Good parenting/bad parenting/no parenting.

    I believe good parenting makes this an easier thing in most cases. There are always exceptions to the rule.

  • ChicagoJudy // October 22, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    When you’re talking about Casey’s “relationships” with Ricardo and Tony, don’t forget that even though she was seeing Tony, Ricardo was still very much in the picture. She and Caylee stayed with him in early June, didn’t she? Wasn’t that when Ricardo said he woke up in the a.m. and Casey said that her mom had called in the middle of the night and wanted her to bring Caylee home? I wonder where that poor baby spent the night — we know it wasn’t with her grandma. Breaks my heart.

  • linda from jersey // October 22, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    I don’t think any sane person would say that George & Cindy planned to raise a killer, and they should never be accused of that. The glaring difference between the Klebolds and the Anthonys is that as horrendous as what their son did, they did not run around the country blaming everyone he ever met, nor have they made any money off of this. My heart breaks for that poor woman, who has been tormented with those feelings of “what did I do wrong” for all these years. Cindy could learn a lot from her actions, but I’ll guarantee you, she won’t.

  • NorthernLight // October 22, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    linda from jersey you say you “guarantee” that cindy won’t learn from her actions. With due respect, how can you make such a statement? Perhaps she does live a private hell every day and second guesses everything …. we just don’t know that. The only person that does is Cindy herself. Granted, her actions in public wouldn’t lead us to believe she’d learn anything, but again, we just don’t know.

  • Kim // October 22, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    I wonder if Cindy has ever asked her self that question… What did I do wrong

    I know it would be a question I would ask myself endlessly

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    Hey Jersey. I DO get your point about a family member. But I didn’t feel tht way about Sharon Rocha writing a book (which I read) about Casey. BUT she was a victim.

    This is a family where the victim AND the murderer are in that one family. So it is indeed a very unique case. Usually cut and dry. But the rest of that family being grandparents of the murdered girl and the mother and father of the murderer are chosing to tell tall stories and point fingers, and yes lie, in order to save the dughter who murdered the granddauhgter.

    And please with the “you don”t know what you’d do if in their shoes..” Decent, honest people don’t cover up, muddy the waters, change stories, and give a big FU to people who don’t believe their daughter is innocent. That’s why they get the big FU right back at them.

    And if not for the sunshine law, we would not be discussing this all over the place.

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Off Topic – I need to apologize to Snoopy for my last comment to her last night. It wasn’t necessary.

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Northern Light, that is where we can all say we agree to disagree.
    I see it as the way Jersey sees it. I’ve base my opinion on what I’ve seen the parents say and do, via the sunshine law, TV interviews and in the media (especially in the beginning), common sense and a lifetime of meeting and reading about people. And you have seen the same and have a differing opinion.
    And thats what makes the give and take here great. I most certainly don’t begrudge your or anyone’s opinion who doesn’t match mine.

    Keep on bloggin, Northern Light!!

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    If they are thinking one way privately and another publicly, than that makes me think worse of their tactics than I already do. Know what I mean?
    The “private” and “public” just came to mind from what Mr or Ms Northern lights said regarding a private hell.

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    I can’t believe I said fu. Sorry. But it felt good…the deveil made me do it!

  • NorthernLight // October 22, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    Linda NY I think I know what you are saying and yes by all means, we can agree to disagree. That’s what makes us all GREAT lol.

    MS. Northern:)

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    OK, MS. Northern.

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Dave’s gonna hate me for commenting too much when he gets back from wherever he is.

  • anonymous // October 22, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Dave Jeeez- if you don’t know the difference between grandparents of a dead 3 yr old little girl making blood money off the murder their daughter committed while at the same time they are actively covering up the murder & the same old greedy vultures the media who we expect to make a profit from salacious stories, old boyfriends that were implicated by the family anyway, sleazy lawyers, “private investigators”, book authors & hangers on–

    IMO DAVE you should re-think your place in this case & keep your mouth shut because YOU CLEARLY JUST DON’T GET IT.

    READ LINDA FROM NEW JERSEY’S LAST POST 100 times (S & seek professional help. You’re drinking too much of the anthony’s kool-aid & it’s poisoned your once funtioning brain.

  • Chris // October 22, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Jeez Dave!- if you don’t know the difference between grandparents of a dead 3 yr old little girl making blood money off the murder their daughter committed while at the same time they are actively covering up said murder & the same old greedy vultures the media who we expect to make a profit from salacious stories, old boyfriends that were implicated by the family anyway, sleazy lawyers, “private investigators”, book authors & hangers on–

    IMO DAVE you should re-think your place in this case because YOU CLEARLY JUST DON’T GET IT.

    READ LINDA FROM NEW JERSEY’S LAST POST 100 times (she doesn’t have a blog dedicated to crime but clearly understands why the A’s are hated & the subject of our condemnation) & seek professional help.

    You’re drinking too much of the Anthony’s kool-aid & it’s poisoned your once functioning brain.

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Man I don’t know what’s going on here these days. The last comment. Yesterday. Something’s in the air and I don’t have the heart for it.

    I have offended a commenter here for what I thought was a minor disagreement – and have tried to apologize – but its clear its not going to be accepted.

    Since the other party has been here longer than I have – I do not want to be a source of bad feelings for anyone.

    Dave – I love your blog and your attitude about the whole Caylee case. I hate to say goodbye to so many of you but thanks for all of the laughs and the education!

    I may have to duck in here and read and watch videos as they come up – can’t resist. – Lily/Owen

  • NorthernLight // October 22, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    anonymous (now that’s original) …. you and your ilk are the reasons people seek refuge here. Go back to wherever it is you crawled out from. I absolutely cannot speak for anyone else, but it seems to me that intolerance, name calling and an overall lack of respect aren’t wanted here.

    sorry Dave. I am always polite …. to a point, but when someone is that patently rude, I can’t stay quiet.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Lily~ you don’t have to leave Snoopy is reading depos she is not upset with you. STAY Please!

  • NorthernLight // October 22, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    lily please don’t leave. I’m very new and have been reading a lot and I think quite highly of your posts. If you’ve apologized, then there is little else you can do. The other person will need to meet you halfway.
    As for people like ‘anonymous’ you are giving them exactly what they want. Please don’t let them or anyone dictate your actions. I know it’s hard to ignore them (notice how I did NOT …. lol), but please try if it is bothersome to you.
    You have great things to say and I enjoy reading them.

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    Laura – thanks so much hon. But its not gonna happen. I’ve learned a lot from you. You’re incredible – truly an inspiration to me. Trust me, this is best – and incredibly sad.

  • Vicky // October 22, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Lily, Please don’t leave. I thoroughly enjoy your point of view – whether I always agree with you or not. By the way, I do quite often agree with you. It owuld not be very though provoking if we all agreed all of the time. No hard feelings here.

  • Vicky // October 22, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Lily, Please don’t leave. I thoroughly enjoy your point of view – whether I always agree with you or not. By the way, I do quite often agree with you. It would not be very though provoking if we all agreed all of the time. No hard feelings here.

  • Vicky // October 22, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    Sorry for the double post, don’t know how that happened. So, I will make one correction. Not very thought provoking.

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    I hate it when people say they’re leaving and then – DON’T LEAVE. I’m not using this as leverage or anything. I thank you very much for saying what you’re saying. I’ll be at Blink on a regular basis. I’ve never had the experience I had this afternoon before so I’ll leave it at that. You guys are WONDERFUL!

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    I leave to write an opinion piece and all kinds of crap happens. Who’s this Chris dude? He should have saved his comment for my new post.

  • Chris // October 22, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    Northern Light- if you call THE TRUTH name calling than you belong somewhere other than a blog discussing crime. Instead of addressing my message YOU ATTACK THE MESSENGER which makes you the one with nothing of substance to say who crawled out from your cave.

    It’s one thing I notice about you anthony apologist you will never really comprehend the questions or comments because you have nothing to say that would in any way make the Anthony’s look less despicable.

    I didn’t call anyone names I simply made a harsh observation because I think under the circumstances when reading such blatant excuses for the actions of liars & blood sucking leeches that’s what was on my mind so I said it.

    Linda from NJ you are sharp & have a good sense about what’s going on & why the public is outrages with this obscene family. And you don’t piss anyone off so keep Dave on his toes, he needs your help.

  • NorthernLight // October 22, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    while the cats away, the mice do play …..

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Chris? Am I having a meeting with God? Right here on my blog? I never would have thought that God would have such a sarcastic and snide temperament.

  • NorthernLight // October 22, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    well Chris, only “I” will decide where “I” belong but thanks for playing.

  • Laura // October 22, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    lily- I say I am leaving all the time, I take a break a come back. Seriously we want you to stay!!!! Please.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    I don’t think the state prosecutors know as much as you, Chris. Come on, be honest with me… are you God or just King of the Universe?

  • lilyolily // October 22, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    hahaha Laura. Except you’re way smarter and more mature than I am. :-)

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Lilyowenmeany! You get back here.

    That anonymous and Chris right after…don’t let them annoy you. Those that come in with venomus comments are the ones you breeze past and say, geez… what is his/her problem. (And that is the nice way to say it, I cannot print what I really would like to say). If those types of bloggers are ignored, they won’t be back if no one comments.

    I have not hit the refresh button, so I hope no one gave that bozo the time of day. There was a better way to make that comment.

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    OK you see, I did not refresh and Chris has spoken again. I will not take my own advice.

    Dear Chris-Please seek professional help for your anger problem. What are you so damn pi–ed off about. Because no one is rude and mean and writes NASTY comments about the Anthony’s like you? I for one, along with many here, are NOT pro-Anthony and it makes me wanna scream that this family is trying to “cover up, et., etc. etc” for their murdering daughter.

    Are ya spewing vemon over other pople who made money off of the murder of their loved one? Did ya see my comment above about Sharon Rocha writing a book about the murder of her daughter? Who cares who is making money. Many will. Don’t you think there are a heck of a lot more things to mad about in this case than that?
    And did you notice no one screamed and yelled and got nasty at Linda from Jersey because of what she wrote? We love Jersey and her opinion.

    So Chris is another drive by, Huh? LOL

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    By the way, I know precisely who this fictitious “Chris” is. Any more antics and I may out her.

  • Linda From New York // October 22, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    First anonymous then Chris. What a coward.

    Out her? Is she gay? LOL

    OK good, a new post

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    ChicagoJudy made an interesting point at 4:59. There were many overlapping relationships in Casey’s life.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    Tulessa – The video is here:

    http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/does-not-compute/

  • Chris/Gina // October 22, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    No need to ‘out me’ you silly man. So what I’m Gina. what’s the worst that can happen, you going to ban me. I’m devestated…not.

    But like lilyolily or whater tf her name is I’m done here.

    Not because I’m overly sensetive but because I think I said everything I wanted to & meant every word & if you look past my sarcasm you’ll see I’m right..that’s all clueless Dave back to your little Sympathy for the anthony’s blog. I pity you.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Chris/Gina – To be honest, I don’t care whether you pity me or not. Again, who anointed you God? Do not answer that. At least I do not hide behind a facade.

  • linda from jersey // October 22, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Northern Lights,

    You are correct, I should not have said I guarantee it , but I would feel pretty safe betting on it. I am not being flip, that is my opinion from having seen all the video of her in action. Pretty much everyone here felt for her in the first few days, probably said prayers for her & George. I know I did. Just watch the depo of her with Morgan & Morgan. Until that point I was still prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt. She enjoyed that fight. I can still see her refusing to “mic” up. I guess she’s only comfortable doing that in church. Turns out we wern’t so wrong in our thoughts on that, because it was on 48 hours, and therefore was paid for. Sorry, that is my opinion.

  • Arthur // October 22, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Dave, It would seem that you want it your way and your way only. In order to have a fair and balanced blog, you need to accept that there are those who don’t share your views 100%. If it is your intention to throw everyone off your blog that doesn’t agree with you, you are in my opinion being too thin skinned. People here are going to get snarky with each other as well as you have. It goes with blogging. If it is your intention to have a Feel Good Blog for the Anthonys you will soon have a very small audience. As you well know, you are not the most popular person on many of the Caylee A. Blogs. That should be a clue. I don’t believe in bashing the other posters or the owner/moderator but IMO you need to lighten up.

  • jilligan45 // October 22, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Laura, I got the information, and I promise you it is all good. You know I just want to say one thing, ok… maybe a couple and I’ll let it rest… No I’m not Cindy, she is one of my dearest friends…. Tengard is a chemical used in Termite Insecticide.. , it happened to be on my Calander at work when I signed up for wordpress for those that have the need to know, so I used it for a username… no more no less… I ususally just read and sit on my hands.. hence the missing pinky’s ….lol Laura I’ve made some very good aquaintences here, one very good BFF :) on a similar very good site. Thank you all for being so kind , it’s just time to take a break… Thank you again for the kind words. I’m not here to answer any questions, tell you u why life is the way it is….I’m only here honestly because I appreciate Daves hard work and insight… I only step in whenI feel the need, and he knows that :) Nite all….. Laura, you and all the others are always in my prayers……always

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Arthur? Who did I throw off this blog. Come back to me with a qualified answer and I’ll get back to you. Until then, did I or did I not allow you to state your opinion? You came out of nowhere and you’re going to tell me all that is wrong with me and my blog? Go ahead, the floor is yours.

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Jilligan45 – It is great to hear from you. I don’t think you need anyone to tell you how much we care about you.

  • NorthernLight // October 22, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Linda NJ, absolutely no need to apologize for your opinion. You stated it plainly and with respect. Just because my opinion is different in this respect, does not mean it’s right …. just different.

  • dancehappy // October 22, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Dave – now we’ve got an Arthur who sounds just like Chris – huh – just ignore them all, they’re not worth responding to!

  • Sherry // October 22, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Tengard {{{hugs}}} :mrgreen:

    Anybody need a super duper pooper scooper? Looks to me like some dawgs have been crappin’ back here! Shame on you, Gina!~Does Blink know you are here crapping on Dave’s blog?

    Dave, I’m glad to be a little ewe in your flock of Anthony apologists! :lol:
    Arthur, you haven’t even read a thing of Dave’s about this case. All you did was catch wind of some jealous blogger or their cohort and decided to come put Dave in his place, er, the place you deem he should be in.
    No wonder the Judge doesn’t bother with these other C. Anthony blogs! They’re too busy slammin’ the Ants and outsnarkin’ each other!
    BTW, Hi, Judge Strickland. The mess will be cleaned up in a bit, sir!

  • Marinade Dave // October 22, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    Thank you, Sherry. I have no idea why Gina did what she did. She first came in with another name. Jazman or something like that.

  • Sherry // October 23, 2009 at 1:29 am

    Humph! It was probably the one who I defended. Funny how some folks can talk all decent on blogs they respect and then come into a blog they don’t like because they don’t like the blogger and take a big dump in it.
    I never would have guessed Gina could be a flaming troll since I have seen her comments at the other place. And she said she was going to leave the case for awhile. Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde…

  • GUMBO // October 23, 2009 at 6:33 am

    I want to share this. Go to youtube.com and watch this video – I Gotta Feeling Live at Oprah’s 24th Season Kickoff Party -
    It will make you feel good about all humanity and a great and positive way to start your day. (this is not my video, and there are several different ones, it’s your choice)

  • Teri // October 23, 2009 at 7:36 am

    Hi all. I’m a loyal Blink fan…and found you guys by way of a link posted from her site. I am completely immersed in this case…and pray, every night, for justice for Sweet Caylee Marie.

    I went to go post on the most recent article regarding the Anthony’s cruise – but it seems to have gone poof. From the things I read in the comments – I’m guessing, Dave -that is was closed due to all the unsavory content. I understand.

    I have been avidly following this case…and pray every night that justice is carried out in Caylee’s name.

    I was wondering, Dave – if you know. Is it possible for you to do some kind of an article that fills us in on what information will make it into the trial.

    I believe, as you do – that Casey will not testify. So – if that is the case…can they even use Zanny as the defense – because wouldn’t that require Casey to take the stand in order to tell that story – and to allow for cross examination?

    There is just so much info out there – and I’m wondering how much of it will actually be able to come in at trial.

    Thanks in advance.

    Nice site, by the way. :)

  • jilligan45 // October 23, 2009 at 7:57 am

    Good morning all, Sorry I missed you all yesterday…. Had to head North to Gainesville for some tests…. I wish you all a beautiful day!!!, Thank you Laura once again, and just where the heck is that Lilyolily? And to my BFF, if your reading this… your the best!

  • lilyolily // October 23, 2009 at 8:20 am

    I’m here just trying to keep my comments on the light and positive jilligan. I sincerely hope all of your tests come back with good news.

  • Marinade Dave // October 23, 2009 at 8:29 am

    Good morning, Teri – Thank you for stopping by. I took that post down because it just got uglier and uglier as time went by. I realize now that I am not allowed to have an opinion.

    I’ve thought about doing an article on what I think will make it to trial and what won’t, but I am not an attorney. I could only make educated guesses which would, once again, be my opinion. I’ll toss the idea around, though.

    Thank you for enjoying my site.

  • Marinade Dave // October 23, 2009 at 8:30 am

    Good morning jilligan45. Rough night in here. I took down the post.

  • Teri // October 23, 2009 at 8:40 am

    Thanks for the response, Dave.

    There is just so much involved in this case. And, things we have yet to know.

    I find myself wondering if much of what we do know now will make it into trial.

    Do you happen to know if the Zanny the Nanny theory will make it into trial?

    Can they use Casey’s written statements without her needing to be cross examined?

  • jilligan45 // October 23, 2009 at 8:47 am

    Lilyolily, I think your comments are always wonderful! You know what the problem is? The problem is, that if we… not you and I, but anyone of us were to be sitting face to face having a conversation it’s so much easier to read ones body language and understand the intent and direction of the conversation….Sometimes I think when people write via blog, or text it tends to get taken out of context and is misunderstood by others what the real point one is trying to get across. I know that I have come across that way to a couple of people, and my intentions where of the complete opposite. I enjoy everyone’s comments…good, bad …not so much ugly. I really enjoy Dave’s writing, and that is what entices me to stay on this blog. I believe I have been very fair with you all, and you for the most part have been very fair with me. I thank each and every one you all for allowing me to speak my peace without being judgmental. Well…. most of you….lol

  • Marinade Dave // October 23, 2009 at 9:00 am

    Teri – Yes, I do believe the nanny story will make it into the trial. Big time. It will be used to show a web of lies and prove that no one besides Casey had Caylee on the last day she was seen alive.

    As for Casey’s written statements, as well as her taped interviews with law enforcement, yes, absolutely all of it will be entered as evidence. It is evidence, after all. Suppose I am interviewed about a crime and 3 months later, I drop dead of a heart attack. My testimony was crucial to the case. The fact that anything and everything I wrote in statements and during interviews were taken under oath, that’s evidence, plain and simple. Just because Casey’s initial written statement to police was nor sworn to does not mean it cannot be used. The defense cannot prove it’s not her handwriting and it was signed with an abundance of witnesses standing around.

  • Renee // October 23, 2009 at 9:00 am

    HEY CHRIS….Buddy……ain’t no Casey Kool-aid being served up in here. You should check your intake tho of whatever it is you are having.

  • lilyolily // October 23, 2009 at 9:16 am

    Thanks jilligan. You’re gracious, kind and fair. You don’t have to come here and put yourself out there but I’m glad you do. I hope this stays a safe and kind place for you to be because that’s what Dave has nurtured from the beginning.

    And I’m here because Dave is a skilled writer and becoming a competent videographer (pulling Dave’s leg). The content is not the same ‘ol echo chamber. And previously the commenters were mostly those like us that just get sick and tired of all of the people who might as well post under the hat “Captain Obvious” with their uncreative ventings and rantings.

    I understand the frustration with the Anthony’s – I’ve read EVERYTHING unlike some of these trolls who just mimic their friends. I just don’t see the point in competitive bashing. They want to make it an Olympic sport. There are certainly enough places out there for them to go do that. It says a lot about them that they feel as though they have to hear themselves talk on every blog though.

    Its not that a lot of people don’t agree with many of their points – saying it over and over isn’t going to change anything. I guess small people feel bigger if they can find someone to hate and someone to listen to them talk about it.

  • jilligan45 // October 23, 2009 at 9:20 am

    Oh good Lord, gotta go see what Bubba the Love Sponge is trying to pull…..

    Real radio, gotta love them!

  • Thinkerbelle // October 23, 2009 at 9:36 am

    Dave, this Gina must also be the would that made the analogy of the A’s being the underseam of society, did he not? Makes me think this person may have been a protester.

  • Marinade Dave // October 23, 2009 at 9:47 am

    Good morning, Thinkerbelle – This Gina, Chris, jazmin623, thing came into the blog and immediately started trouble. I know the IP address and where he, she, it comes from. This person won’t come back.

  • Laura // October 23, 2009 at 9:58 am

    You are welcome Jilligan, you don’t deserve the crap that people throw at you! I am glad you are back I hope you are okay!! :)

  • Sherry // October 23, 2009 at 10:00 am

    lilyolily, re: 9:16 comment
    Well said! I agree. I’m wondering if I’m gonna need the super duper pooper scooper by my side now that Dave is attracting flamers and trolls and flaming trolls! Geesh! They can really stink the place up when they come in leaving their crap.
    As for Gina-man, that does bother me! I can only hope she isn’t the one I know. What a change of character if it is her! Or maybe that is her true self???
    Great day, jilligan is here! I, too hope your tests come out good!

  • jilligan45 // October 23, 2009 at 10:10 am

    Oh I have to stay positive, I’ve got 2 little ones that count on me! I have such positive reinforcement and love and support I can’t anything else other than ok! Remember…. I am wonder woman….lol

  • Arthur // October 23, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Anyone left here or did Dave shut this one down also?

  • Marinade Dave // October 23, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    No, Arthur, I did not shut this one down.

  • Arthur // October 23, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Dave Says:

    Then I’m comical, Linda from Jersey. I’ve also just about had it up to my eyes with this. I wrote apiece about Bubba’s offer of $25,000.

    Dave,
    As they say if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. You started this and now you have had it up to your eyes. You say you are Internet Savvy. Well then, you must know that this is what would happen especially if you defend the Anthonys and their misdeads. I mentioned this the other night, if you continue to berate women and defend the A’s, you will find yourself alone on your own blog. Your sexist remarks are totally out of line as well as saying Men are Bastards. Think about it Dave. I can’t believe that you just cut and run from the other thread and left a lot of your loyal posters without a voice on your blog. WOW!!

  • Marinade Dave // October 23, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    Hey Arthur, I opened it back up. I had things to take care of and I had no idea what sort of nefarious elements would come in here while I was gone.

    I think it’s comical that you are telling me how to cook.

  • Carol // October 23, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Hi Dave, It looks like the mob mentality has jumped from the Anthony’s sidewalk to your blog. The comments from Chris, Gina and Arthur remind me of that old lady that stood on the Anthony sidewalk screaming at Cindy Anthony. She was screaming out questions to the repect of why are you lying to coverup a babykiller etc. As if Cindy was going to spill everything and solve the case right there. I don’t agree with the Anthonys conduct. Yes I think Casy did it, but I don’t think this case will be solved by people acting like a lynch mob. I don’t think anything is gained by cutting down people who have taken a lot of time researching the case and sharring their findings and opinions. Dave I hope you continue to enlighten us with your research and opinions.

  • Arthur // October 23, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Strength of character and the courage of your convictions come to mind Dave. You didn’t address anything I said in my post above. Did you have a twinge of conscience and open up the other thread. You were pissed and you know it. You were just throwing a hissy fit because you didn’t like the jist of the conversation. Admit it.

    PS, I didn’t tell you how to cook. I don’t know where you got that. However, I am sure that I could teach you a lot of things about cooking but that is not the subject here, is it?

  • Marinade Dave // October 23, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    Hi, Carol – It seems this Arthur character came in here yesterday and started to step on me right away. That’s fine, and I can take it, but it’s difficult to understand how someone like him can come here out of nowhere and do that without knowing anything about me or at least saying hello first. It’s very evident where his motives lay.

    I’ll continue to write. No doubt I shook a lot of apples from the tree last night and today, but maybe that was a good thing. Thanks for your support. I agree with you, too.

  • Marinade Dave // October 23, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Then don’t tell me to stay out of the kitchen, Arthur, if you are one to play games with words. You know nothing about me yet you insult my strength of character and courage? Who are you?

  • Julie // October 23, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Dave-I don’t know if this has been posted yet, but here is a much clearer picture of Caylee wearing that shirt on the cover of the NE. The only pics I saw were blurry & tipped on an angle.

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_new_evidence_death_penalty_caylee_pychopath_profiler/celebrity/67548

  • NorthernLight // October 23, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Carol, I would like to echo your sentiments exactly. That woman in front of their house was insane. If that had been my home, I don’t know if I would have stopped at just yelling at that insane loon.
    Dave I’m sorry to see that things have gotten so out of hand and that a few people who cannot MAKE you agree with their way of thinking are trying to cause so much trouble. I just don’t understand why they bother. They know you don’t agree with their opinions, but they insist and insist and insist they MUST be right …. lol.

  • Marinade Dave // October 23, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    That’s very interesting, Julie. I wonder where the Enquirer got the picture? Thanks for the find.

  • Marinade Dave // October 23, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Thanks, NorthernLight. I’ll admit I was harsh in my responses, but it was a rout. It was like everyone backed me into a corner and I came out fighting. I guess the bottom feeders upset me to begin with. I said that Morales sold pictures to the Globe. A woman came in here and said it wasn’t true and placed my credibility in jeopardy. Even when I provided a link, she didn’t back down. That really set me off and the entire thread went downhill from there. Actually, it started earlier, but I was OK with it. I’ve had arguments in the past and we all got over it. Anyway, I’m sorry my temper got the best of me and I will never write an opinion piece on the Anthonys again. I should have known when I wrote it that it was going to get ugly.

    I’m going to take an extended vacation from blogging, I think. Not because I am angry with anyone, but I need time to catch up and clear my mind.

  • Julie // October 23, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    I must have missed a whole lot….hate to bring it up, but has the Globe pic of Caylee & Ricardo playing the drums been posted yet?

  • NorthernLight // October 23, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    Even though I’ve only been here for a few days, I absolutely respect your opinions and your right to voice them on YOUR OWN blog. However, I will also respect your decision to take a break ….. we all need one from time to time.
    May I suggest a short cruise (said, of course, with the best of intentions, mild humor and well wishes)

  • orlandoan // October 23, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Dave,

    Clearly Arthur doesn’t know you or your high character. He didn’t even understand HIS OWN reference to the kitchen.

    My motto, when all else fails, COOK!

    Take time and enjoy your Friday…..we’ll be here and be looking forward to your return with a new stimulus for discussion.

  • Laura // October 23, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Dave enjoy your break! I don’t want you to change who you are, I am just glad you understand where I come from. I also appreciate the fact you do not expect me to just “forget” my twins just because they are dead! I owe them a lot they helped make me who I am today. See you soon. I will call when I get a chance….

  • Sherry // October 23, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Julie, do you have a link to that pic? I don’t recall seeing that one. TIA!

  • Julie // October 23, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    Sherry:

    http://viewer.zoho.com/docs/izbFg

  • Finn Perkins // October 26, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    guess I’ll be standing in line at “S..Z..u know where..save me a seat I want you to meet debby too!

  • stocirpa // November 1, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Re: Joy Wray. I found out some interesting “stuff” on Joy Wray. You may like to know that she was not discharged from a mental health diversion program until 8/12/08 – almost 2 months after Caylee’s death – this makes it doubtful that she was, in fact, searching for Caylee the day after sh was declared “missing,” as Mrs. Wray claims. I also found it interesting that she has three young children and a husband who has been arrested numerous times on charges of child abuse, battery and domestic violence. In essence, it does not appear that Mrs. Wray will prove to be a credible witness for the defense.

  • Laura // November 1, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    stocirpa, very interesting do you have a link? Or was this all just research? Great finds thank you!!

  • Marinade Dave // November 1, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    I had chosen not to go after Joy because of her immediate relevance to the case. She has not been named a witness. That’s one thing, but also, if not for hearing about the Baker Act from this particular case, how would anyone outside of Florida know about it? Another thing that keeps tossing around in my head is George. How much would some people love to see him charged with perjury for lying under oath at his depositions? Wait a second. At the same time you use Joy as an example of someone with no credibility, why not excuse George, too? What is good for the goose is good for the gander. If George is credible enough to warrant possible charges, what makes Joy’s testimony not worth just as much? I’m not taking sides. I am questioning nothing more than logic. It’s like supporting the war in Afghanistan while George Bush was president and condemning Barack Obama for still being involved. What happened? Obama didn’t start the war. All of a sudden, the deaths of our youth become important?

  • Sherry // November 1, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Laura what stocripa said is true, as I did my own searching on her myself. There is no one link, to my knowledge.
    Dave, to compare Joy Wray with George is, imo, comparing apples to oranges. George did not ask for what he is going through. Joy inserted herself into this case. How is it that she can even say she was in the woods when she was preoccupied elsewhere? Sgt. Beary felt it necessary to make a note of her 5 Baker Acts so, he had reason to be a bit leary, too. She is another JT, IMHO.

  • stocirpa // November 3, 2009 at 4:42 am

    Two Joy Wray Links:

    http://seminoleclerk.org/CriminalDocket/case_detail_5.jsp?CaseNo=592008CF002535A

    http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4261.msg590162

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