Would you like squirrel on that pizza?

June 20, 2009 · 658 Comments

“The roots growing into the vertebrae and bags indicate that the body was placed there months prior to being found. There is nothing inconsistent with the body being placed there soon after the day of last being seen alive.”

Well, it’s official… The autopsy and other forensic reports released yesterday indicate no drugs were found in Caylee’s body at the time of her death and what those documents tell me is that Casey did not drug her over a period of time, which means no extended exposure to Xanax or chloroform or any other heavy duty medications meant to daze her into a deep sleep. This means that Zani (or Zanny the Nanny, depending on which one you prefer) was not Xanax, AKA Caylee’s elusive babysitter as some have theorized. Throw that one out with the dirty dish water. What it does not deny, though, is the theory that she was drugged on her final day alive, and that chemical compounds did not have a chance to seep their way into her system. Casey did not drug her daily and tote her around in the trunk of her car. No accidental overdose occurred and there is no such thing as an accidental homicide. Duct tape in her hair shows an intent to kill and/or cause great bodily harm. No one places tape over a toddler’s mouth, nose and into the hair to merely silence that child, especially multiple layers. Whether she suffocated or not we will never know, but suffice it to say her mother was the last family member to see her alive and the duct tape found in the house conclusively matches the tape found on the skull, mandible and hair. Did Zani sneak in there to steal a roll of tape when it would have been much simpler to buy a new roll?

Soon after George and Cindy Anthony told authorities that the car reeked of death, like there was a “damn dead body” in there somewhere, they did an about face and said it was from a pizza box. Now, I’ve always eaten a pizza before it had a chance to rot and I never thought about leaving it in the trunk to keep it piping hot in the Florida heat, but on a practical note, it makes all the sense in the world if we are to promote an earth friendly, green environment and take advantage of solar heat instead of a coal burning electric oven, with coal being the source of electricity.

It’s interesting to note that Casey and her parents, for any of the conspiracy theorists out there, do not completely agree on what caused the car to have that nasty stench of death. George and Cindy adhere to the pizza box theory while their not so loving daughter claims it was from dead squirrels that were plastered to the frame of her car, although no putrid flesh was found. Quite simply put, that’s what you call CYA, or cover your ass, in plain language. Casey knew that someone would recognize the smell and she had to have an explanation for it. The friends she text messaged might have believed her but it didn’t wash with the fuzz.

To prove how smart, cagey and thorough these law enforcement types were on this case, they sent a decomposed pizza and a non-breathing – meaning dead – squirrel to the Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee where scientists did some analyzing. Trust me, no squirrels were run over in an attempt to duplicate the conditions, so PETA, stay out of it. It was roadkill. Remember, trained K-9 dogs can differentiate between human and animal decomposition and they barked that the trunk odor was definitely from human residue.

The Oak Ridge report emphasized that previous statements about a decomposing pizza found in the trunk were not true, but to allay future issues, they went ahead and ordered a mushroom and pepperoni pie. Hmm… was that a thin crust? They analyzed it, still in its original box – after a lunch break, I’m sure – and after several days of decomposition. “It’s interesting to note that no maggots were found on the pizza,” and it still tasted fresh. No, I added that part.

AmericanRedSquirrelLike I said, the poor tamiasciurus hudsonicus was the victim of a hit-and-run and was supplied by a zooarcheologist at the University of Tennessee. Researchers allowed poor Rocky J. Squirrel to decompose outdoors for about 10 days in a garbage can with fly access. In other words, no lid. After that time period, the researchers said that maggot activity and odor were “significantly less than expected.”

They also noted, “Results of this analysis showed very little similarity to the Florida carpet sample,” and that no sulfur compounds or chloroform were detected. In my opinion, this could be interpreted as a completely different result because in the Caylee case, the trunk was sealed, it was relatively airtight, and the heat in the Florida climate made it unbearably hot. The defense may try to suppress this evidence, but I believe it would be a losing cause since chloroform was present and there must be a reason for it being so high. I predict it will be one of the key pivotal points at the trial.

Of the 51 found and identified chemicals on the carpet sample from the trunk of Casey’s car, 80% were consistent with decompositional events. “Nearly all the compounds present in early human decomposition were detected in the trunk samples if their concentrations were high enough to detect,” the report said. This would directly lead to the assumption that a human body was in the trunk and nowhere else on or in the vehicle. Circumstantial, yes, but Casey said squirrels were stuck to the frame, not in the trunk where the concentrations were found.

Here are some other findings:

Crime scene technicians spent over a week minutely scouring the woods off Suburban Drive trying to find every little piece of the remains and anything else tied to the case. The autopsy report states that they collected “an almost complete skeleton of a young child with only multiple small bones missing. The missing bones include small bones from the wrists and hands, as well as fingers and ankle, hyoid and patella.” The hyoid is the only bone in the human skeleton not articulated to any other bone. It is held in place by thyroid ligaments. What this means is that as the flesh decomposes, it separates from the remaining skeletal remains and in this case, it drifted away.

I’ve already mentioned that the report shows several overlapping pieces of duct tape on the skull. “Although there is no trauma evident on the skeleton, there is duct tape over the lower facial region still attached to head hair,” it said. “This duct tape was clearly placed prior to decomposition keeping the mandible in place.”

Parts of the skeleton were intermixed with the two plastic garbage bags and a canvas laundry bag. “The bags have a woodsy, outdoor odor with no smell of decomposition.” The report also noted that vertebrae were found clustered away from the skull. This means that water and/or other natural weather conditions and animals were responsible.

Medical examiners made note of multiple roots extending through parts of the plastic bag and bones. At least one root was 10 centimeters in length and “completely extends through the bag.”

“The roots growing into the vertebrae and bags indicate that the body was placed there months prior to being found. There is nothing inconsistent with the body being placed there soon after the day of last being seen alive.” Roots had also grown through a Winnie the Pooh blanket found at the scene with the plastic bags.

Since the release of these reports, I’ve noticed plenty of commenters mention that justice was served when the results were published. I find this to be rather perplexing and it highlights some of the things wrong with this case and how people unfamiliar with law interpret the issues and many of the factors involved. Clearly, Caylee’s body was in those woods longer than the theorists claim, yet many of them will not back down when facts are staring them straight in the face. The most viable conclusion is that she was in those woods since the end of June, minimally. Please cut Kronk some slack. Baez, Dominic Casey, George & Cindy and Brad Conway do not sit around kissing each other’s rear ends, so you should discount any theories about them absolutely knowing beyond a shadow of doubt that the body was in there and Kronk had something to do with it. If anyone really knew it was there, it would have been disposed of or found much earlier.

But the biggest and most offensive obstacle is justice itself. Yesterday’s hearing was about allowing the autopsy and forensic reports to be released because of Florida’s open laws. Some of you call them Sunshine Laws. This was not at all about justice. It was strictly about our right to know since all autopsy reports are a matter of public record. It is the legal right for an attorney to fight the release as much as it is my right as a Floridian to read it. Just because you can read it too does not make it justice. The Anthonys had every right to beg and if you went through the same type of misery, you would do the same thing, no matter how biased and filled with hate you are for them. I was almost completely convinced that the judge would be compelled to rule the way he did. He didn’t like it, but the law is the law and in the end, he did the right and only thing. What we get to see from those open laws has absolutely nothing to do with justice. All of these documents will be presented at trial, whether they are released to us or not. Then, and only then, is when justice will be served. Justice is all about Caylee and it has nothing to do with me, you or anyone else. Because of the subject matter in this case, I understand how emotions run high, but we all need to find the line that separates facts from emotions and keep them apart.


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  • Detwill39 // June 23, 2009 at 10:38 am

    Dave~~what happened hon, did you end up with yolk on your face?

  • laura // June 23, 2009 at 10:39 am

    I like it!

  • Marinade Dave // June 23, 2009 at 10:42 am

    Well, you are, Laura. I just tell it like it is.

  • laura // June 23, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Dave, I see where people are trying to put the argument in there but who knows the icing on the cake could be Tony telling Casey that Caylee can’t stay all night. It is just more what ifs…. I don’t think a argument with your mom leads to murder if it did I would be a serial killer. By the way I am not a serial killer, I couldn’t hurt a fly.

  • Marinade Dave // June 23, 2009 at 11:40 am

    President Obama hurt a fly and PETA went after him. That’s plain nutty.

    I don’t buy the fight theory as the murder motive, either. I think she planned on getting rid of Caylee long before that, if the fight happened at all. The prosecution seems to be going in the direction of search terms, such as neck-breaking and chloroform. I feel the motive came up before a fight and it has to do with jealousy and vengeance she felt she needed to take out on her mother. Casey hated her mother for smothering Caylee and for trying to take Caylee away from her. I go with that motive because there are testimonials from her friends that back up the theory.

  • Marinade Dave // June 23, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Let me clarify that a bit. I do believe the motive I stated above is correct, but there is a good chance that if the fight did, in fact, occur, then that may be what put her over the edge.

  • LosAngeles // June 23, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Hi, everyone. I guess I should go read our newer blogs.

  • Barbie Girl // June 23, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Dave – Thanks for the thanks. This is the only blog site I ever felt comfortable on. I think the individuals on here, for the most part, are intelligent and thoughtful.

    I was perviewing blog sites last fall and some of the women (mostly) were getting ready to hang poor Crystal Sheffield out to dry. Then there were the Misty and Ron haters, and we won’t even go into the ones who degraded the grandmothers!! I read but never responded because I felt either not informed enough to know what they did (or did not) know. I had no reason to hate anyone although I did feel Misty was naive maybe and hiding something.

    I think in the name of justice for Haylee we should not be attacking her grandparents. I have lost respect for them, over time, but I would never want to walk in their shoes.

    I don’t know even after the trial if we will ever know the truth or feel justice has been served.

    But you are so right, Dave, the lack of information makes one want to “connect the dots.” And sometimes in our zeal we make some connections that maybe are not really there.

    Unfortunately, some of the sleuthers on here get carried away, too. I know sometimes my imagination gets carried away with me.

    That’s why I am glad you are a good and true journalist who keeps parameters and always reminds us not to become irrational or vindictive.

    I think for Caylee’s sake we should be ever so thoughtful and not become hateful….in her name…that would also be a grave injustice.

    Wouldn’t it?

    Barbie Girl

  • Marinade Dave // June 23, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Thank you, Barbie Girl, but I am only one cog in the gear here. I do try to keep everything on the level, yet I understand where and why minds wander. Most of the time, great ideas pop up. I know I am more of a stick with the facts purist, but if I kept strictly to what I know and nothing more, I would be boring and one-sided, not to mention near-sighted.

    Sleuthers get carried away at every chance. I’m reminded of House, MD, and I find it to be a fascinating look into medical sleuthing. I realize it’s fiction, but in real life, detectives must think abstractly; sort of always looking at facts and saying to themselves, “What if this instead of that?” Sometimes, commenters do go overboard and the abstract becomes more distorted, but I’m very glad to take it all in. You never know when something will pop out.

    I also think everyone here is aware that we won’t tolerate hate, spite, malice and degrading name calling. That just doesn’t fit in the equation of justice for Caylee and as far as I’m concerned, insults like that went out after 3rd grade. Well, not to a lot of people on these blogs, obviously, but not here.

    In the end, I would expect and hope that imaginations get carried away. It reminds me of a good Sherlock Holmes book, too. Do I think everyone should be more respectfull of the Anthony family? Yes, but I can understand people’s frustrations. The only problem with it is that too many people take it all way too personally, yet they never walked in the same place as them. Often, I’ve mentioned WWCD, meaning What Would Caylee Do if she could hear and see all of the hatred towards her grandparents. She might have unkind thoughts about her mother, but Jo Jo and Ci Ci were always there for her until almost the end and if it wasn’t for Cindy’s pressing, who knows how long this crime would have remained hidden?

  • He Knows my Heart // June 24, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    Hi everyone, I was just thinking that this is a well written article because it shows one point that most novices will not get on their own.

    The fact that Casey told friends that there was a dead animal making her car smell was a dumb, dumb move on her part. You see, any number of things can smell extremely foul, like propane tanks for barbecue grills, dirty diapers, even rotting food. But to make a statement that a dead anything (really) squirrel, skunk, etc, is very dumb, without Casey’s words of something dead (in) on the car, there would only be the words of her very excitable parents claiming something smelled of death in the car; and those words could be more easily dismissed due to the Anthony’s penchant for exaggeration.

    But, thanks to Casey, she gave some good solid fuel for prosecutors, by explaining away a smell of death coming from her car. Couple the two accounts of the smell of death, canine sniffing evidence, chloroform, and matching duct tape; this to me is a pretty solid case.

    Caylee deserves that kind of justice and solid evidence in my opinion.

    Another point to ponder surrounds the idea that lack of drug evidence can hurt this case badly. To me, as far as there being no evidence of continued drugging of Caylee, I think it could be dealt with well by prosecutors. I do not think that Casey’s guilt or innocence is going to hang on whether or not Caylee was constantly drugged… afterall, you duct tape your child and place in her in a trunk once and get caught, who is not to believe that this didn’t happen before, drugs or no drugs… in similar or nearly identical circumstances? If it did happen before, or just once, once was enough to kill Caylee.

    The argument that Caylee had to have been somewhere while Casey said she was with the nanny, so maybe she was drugged? may not be a huge argument…. when you can prove that Caylee, even just the one time was duct taped and in the trunk. Lord only knows what she did with her the other times, it doesn’t have to be drugging her. Because, given Caseys lack of regard for Caylee, it would be pretty easy for a jury to conclude that Casey had no money to pay a nanny and no actual job to go to in which to require a nanny. Its pretty clear there was no nanny. By the way… is there a complete accounting of how many times Casey was NOT with Caylee when Caylee was supposedly with the nanny?

    Consider this.. Its sad but true but, I know of a case right here in my town where two parents left their babies in the van in the parking lot of a casino on a regular basis. They covered them up, and sometimes gave them alcohol or cold medicine to keep them quiet. they admitted to the drug and alcohol administration, but toxicology reports did not show the substances as they do not stay in tissue long and the duration was not long enough to cause permanent damage to the tissues such as the liver.

    Would it be a be a huge stretch to believe beyond a reasonable doubt that they would duct tape their babies mouth and place them in the trunk to keep them quiet and out of the way if they owned a car and not a van? In my opion, yes, as they showed with their character that they could put their child in harms way, the circumstances can vary, the potential of doing so and the carrying out of the act of harming the child is the issue.

    What if it just seemed easier one day to cover both the mouth and nose, just to be done with them? Would that be too much to believe?

    Not for me, and in Caylees case, I think that anyone who was willing to lie, cheat, steal and create elaborate schemes to rid herself of her child for an hour or for her lifetime, could very well have done just about anything she damn well pleased … including placing Caylee in closets, trunks or wherever was convenient, one time, two times, it doesn’t matter, the lack of drug evidence is minor in my view.

    I know this may not sit well with some of you, but I have seen a lot in my life and I have even seen women leave their babies in cars outside of bars just to be with “their” man. More than that, some years ago I heard a man in court describe how he placed his hand over his baby’s mouth until his baby turned blue and then shook him to revive him. He tried to kill his two year old son because he simply was done being a father and couldn’t take it anymore.

    The fact is that I don’t know what Casey did to Caylee and how many times it happened, drugging or no drugging, there are (unfortunately) far worse things Casey could have been having occur to her, things that we will probably never know, it only took one time to go too far. I’m thinking that the parents and grandparents on the jury are the ones who will think past tricky issues as their GUT instincts will kick in.

    Just my thoughts… H.H.

  • Marinade Dave // June 24, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    I just want to pop in and say hello, especially to Boston, He Knows my Heart, and Weezie. Very good to see your smiling words again.

  • marylee // June 25, 2009 at 2:34 am

    marylee says:
    June 24, 2009 at 11:50 pm
    Honestly~ Are these freaks just trying to get on NG?
    It’s like the new “FAD” kidnap/abuse and kill
    a child?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Enjoyed reading the comments tonight.

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